[joe-frank-list] ''Til you're gone'
Sean Kelly
seaniekaye at gmail.com
Wed Jan 27 07:45:28 PST 2021
Thanks Russell Bell!
My 1980's cassette of Til You're Gone reveals that the Thomas Newman music
was added later. Joe's monologues are unaccompanied in the original. I
prefer the original, it makes that section about going back home anxious
and claustrophobic.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:31 AM <russellbell at gmail.com> wrote:
> Actors read singles' ads; could be actual ads.
>
> 1:40: (Jazz music) Joe tells of training for the Olympic
> decathlon, how strong he is.
>
> 2:50: (Disco music) He tries to study, but can't, goes to a
> club. He meets the Georgette the former head cheerleader. They
> dance, go to the beach, make love. A few weeks later Joe gets
> terribly sick with a venereal disease.
>
> 7: Doris and Philip are on the beach; he ogles a girl, she
> reacts jealously.
>
> 8:30: Actors read more singles' ads.
>
> 9:50: Joe addresses a large audience in a stadium, tells them
> about perfect love, apparently how to achieve it.
>
> 13:10: (Oompah band music) At a restaurant a guy (sounds like
> Arthur Miller) says that Freud was affected by what he ate. A number
> of different actors talk about German/Austrian food and the ancient
> Teutons.
>
> 15: Another couple (Doris & Philip?) at a restaurant talk
> about what to eat; they come onto each other, then get into an
> argument about what he has on his chin.
>
> 16:40: ''Til you're gone'
>
> 17:40: Joe's riding on a train; the stops sound like a train
> north of NYC, ending up in Newburgh. He's back in the town he grew up
> in, goes to his mother's home; she berates him for not having written,
> but it turns out to be the wrong address.
>
> 21:20: Joe's in battle, sounds like WW1 - a brigade of women
> in bathrobes attacks. He knocks one into a washing machine, which
> kills her.
>
> 23:20: Joe's at his mother's home, gets into an argument about
> his getting a job, not believing in God.
>
> 25:30: ''Til you're gone'
>
> 26: Doris and Philip are happy with their day; she's romantic,
> he fears he can't perform, which frustrates her. They can't agree.
>
> 30:30: ''Til you're gone'
>
> 30:50: Actors read more singles' ads.
>
> 31:50: A guy (Arthur Miller?) talks about getting in touch
> with feelings, how the failure to do that causes so much of the
> problems of modern society. Others join in the discussion: it's the
> consciousness-lowering group. (originally aired in 'Arena' - or is
> it the other way around? They're both 1979.)
>
> 37:30: Joe recounts falling in love with pianos. (The first
> piano was a the 'hungry i' in Chicago, Joe says; the 'hungry i' was in
> San Francisco. It was a *great* club!
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungry_i) He fell hardest for a piano in
> Palm Beach, slept in her. Later he makes millions on the stock
> market, goes back for it, promises to save her, love her eternally.
> 'A kiss is just a kiss' accompanies the end.
>
> 43:20: An announcer reading a news story recounts how
> high-ranking Nazis escape after WW2, some to South America, some
> convert to Judaism, even becoming rabbis, some to Roman Catholicism.
> (Tchaikowsky's Symphony 6)
>
> 45:50: Joe asks if she remembers a train ride into the
> mountains (some are Austrian Alps); they collect the stuff people on a
> train riding to a concentration camp, keep as souvenirs. They're
> about to make love when Joe protests he was merely a minor
> functionary.
>
> 48:30: Actors read more singles' ads.
>
> 50:10: The consciousness-lowering group talks about the
> difficulties of relationships, critically evaluate Doris & Philip's
> relationship, the story of Joe returning home.
>
> 54:50: ''Til you're gone'
>
> Year: 1979
>
> Cast: Arthur Miller, Robin Bartlette, Tim Jerome, Bernie
> Mantell, Irene Wagner, Eric Sears, Rosemary Foley, David St. James,
> Marcel Rosenblatt, Joe Frank
>
> Music: This episode has a theme song, ''Til you're gone',
> performed by Arthur Miller (according to the 'NPR playhouse'
> announcer), accompanied by harmonica and guitar. It sounds like a
> real country song. I excerpted it from the show, have it on my
> playlist.
>
> The peaceful piano at 1120 and 3901 seconds (elsewhere?) comes
> from Thomas Newman's score for 'Little women' (1995), the 'Valley of
> the shadow' scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KLL4i9QWI How
> did Joe get music composed in 1995 in a show in 1979? He was a
> genius! Or Newman re-used music he wrote earlier, either for another
> film or a 'serious' piece of music. Maybe Joe composed it in the
> first place and Newman plagiarized him!
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/145IWqFbSMLfYakatpGujibbXcx73Tpd6/view?usp=sharing
> is the clip from Joe's show.
>
> An excerpt of the 'Casablanca' score, based on 'A kiss is just
> a kiss', accompanies the 'falling in love with a piano' segment.
>
> An excerpt from the third movement of Tchaikowsky's Symphony 6
> accompanies the escaped Nazis segment.
>
> I haven't identified the other music.
>
> russell bell
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