[joe-frank-list] Re: make Joe's radio public

MarkwP3096 at aol.com MarkwP3096 at aol.com
Fri Nov 5 13:29:42 PST 2004

In a message dated 05-Nov-04 12:12:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
achavez382 at worldsavings.com writes:
I can't speak for Dave, but what his message correctly stated was that
for quite a while, Joe's work was publicly available and trade was
sanctioned...he didn't say 'public domain'.  It is no longer publicly
available and trading, while no longer sanctioned, has now fallen into
that legally and morally grey domain of 'fair use'.

I comply out of respect for his wishes, not for respect of copyright.
Although these are in effect the same thing, I don't believe he ever
said 'cease and desist' in this forum.  Perhaps those that were running
the swap sites could offer a different perspective.  It would sadden me
to think that they were approached with anything more than a friendly

At one point, I suggested to the list the possibility of transcribing
shows as a joint effort among the members.  My motivation was to make
his work even more accessible.  At the time, his web site was static and
hadn't offered anything new is quite a while.  While there was a little
enthusiasm, most expressed concerns about Joe's wishes.  He cleared up
any questions with another email to the list asking that we not do that
as they figured into some new work that he was pursuing.  It seems he
was referring to his revamped web site.

If the debate here is whether file sharing and derived works are legal,
I really don't care.  If the argument is that Joe Frank will lose money
if they are allowed, I agree, I think he would.  But do I think he is
losing money because fans are copying and distributing his material, I
say no, they care too much about his ongoing success.

Aaron Chavez
Interesting take on things, Aaron. I'm not quite sure what to think about 
this. I have paid many hundreds of dollars for Joe's work and I do believe he 
deserves to be paid for his work as an artist. Obviously, there are varying 
points of view here. So much the better. I just hope Joe keeps on with his mission, 
whatever it may be. We'd all be poorer if he didn't. Just my two cents, is 
Best regards,
Mark W. Palasits
San Francisco, CA
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