Jack talks with epidemiologist Larry Brilliant about dealing with pandemics and right-mindedness. https://www.cityarts.net/event/mindfulness-medicine/ https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/dovetail.prxu.org/178/6db6cfe7-101f-4764-9513-04a38743a5b2/CityArts210405a.mp3 russell bell