[joe-frank-list] Jack Kornfield

Robert Holland rholland356 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 19 10:13:30 PDT 2006


I enjoy the juxtaposition of views and voices that
Kornfield brings to the works. It really enhances the
stories, from my point of view.

Listen to Larry telling his manic stories. Larry's
playing a modern voice that you just know couldn't fit
into Kornfield's ancient view of life. And Kornfield's
performance is quite suave and soothing--he's a
salesman. With Kornfield as background, Larry leaps
from the radio.

Instead of us getting 30 minutes of a Larry rant,
which could become mundane, by framing Larry with
Kornfield, it just makes Larry really come alive. It
enhances the nuances in Larry's story.

I don't see a spiritual search here on Joe's part.
Nobody interacts with Kornfield, or pursues Buddhist
philosophy during the shows.

Robert

--- Jeff Anton <antonjf at hesiod.org> wrote:

> It took quite a while for me to stop being annoyed
> by Jack's voice
> in Joe's work.  For me, Jack seems like a pale,
> monotone and overly
> simple version of Alan Watts.  Having heard many of
> the recordings
> of Alan Watts' lectures, Jack puts me to sleep. 
> Alan's talks and
> stories seem very much more like Joe's work to me. 
> I've also thought
> that Joe might have run out of his own point of
> view.  Joe's early
> work was often actors doing some reading with Joe as
> a kind of
> narrator or chorus pointing something out.  When
> Jack Kornfield
> showed up, I felt that Joe deligated the
> narrator/chorus role to
> Jack because so much of those shows are Joe and
> Frank or Debi on
> the phone.
> 
> Jeff Anton
> 
> Sally wrote:
> > 
> > I would absolutely love to hear what everyone's
> take on Jack  Kornfield 
> > is, and what they think Joe's take on him is.
> > 
> > I initially regarded them ironically, and assumed
> Joe was using them  as 
> > counterpoint to Debi (who seems after a sense of
> spiritual  fulfillment) 
> > and also sometimes Larry (who seems to
> misunderstand  Jack completely). 
> > But, now I've actually gotten really into them. I 
> feel like Joe is 
> > using them to condemn Debi and Larry's world view.
>  But, then, does Joe 
> > subscribe to Jack's philosophies?
> > 
> > -- 
> > What is an oilostatic?
> > sally at oilostatic.com
> > 
> > 
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