[joe-frank-list] Re: make Joe's radio public

Beau Gunderson beau at nwcr.net
Thu Oct 28 23:24:16 PDT 2004

Tried in vain to find the article on joefrank.com about him getting fired
(it was more about the other woman fired by Seymour but it was pretty
informative) but it's not there anymore! I even checked the Wayback machine
but it wasn't on there either. I remember it being linked from the front
page, anybody else know what I'm talking about?




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To fsedghip at yahoo.ca -  you raised some very interesting ideas, I found your
post thought-provoking. Obviously you took some time putting that together.

As I consider the issues you raised, many of which impact all of us as
consumers of electronic "art"  (music, film, literature, etc.) I want to
make a few observations.

You mention ThisLife.Org  - Ira Glass's THIS AMERICAN LIFE program which is
carried on NPR and originates at WBEZ in Chicago.  There is an exact
parallel here, Joe Frank used to have a radio "home" at KCRW in Santa
Monica, and they supported him with some money, maybe some administrative
help and also provided a studio and gear, etc.  But Joe and KCRW had some
kind of falling out, if not a falling out then at least a parting of the
ways.  I'm not sure what it was all about, except I know Joe is unhappy
about something which he may have experienced as betrayal or some other
negative action by KCRW or it's management.  I can't find any info about it,
all I've heard / read /seen from Joe on the issue is, "Oh, let's not go into
that, let's just move on."  I don't know what went wrong, but KCRW DOES seem
to have retreated from any position of leadership they may have had in terms
of free speech and the arts, and they seem to be getting more conservative.
Maybe it's all that money- I've read that KCRW raises more $$$ than any
other NPR affiliate. 

In any event, Joe Frank doesn't have a "patron" in the same way that Ira
Glass does at WBEZ, so he can't offer all his stuff for free.  It USED to be
online for free at KCRW, but those days have passed. (Maybe Ira Glass should
pay some royalties to Joe, after all he learned his craft as an intern on
Joe's show-  some of the This American Life programs even use some of the
same music used in Joe Frank programs.....  but actually I doubt if Ira
Glass & CO have money laying around in great heaps.)

Maybe we all need to writing our congressmen to have Joe declared a living
national treasure and have his work supported by a lifetime federal stipend
or something, but you know all that security might take the edge off his
work. ;-)

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