[joe-frank-list] Re: Spalding Gray

Thu Mar 18 16:56:41 PST 2004

I am not going to claim to be very knowledgeable about
either Spalding Gray or Joe Frank, just am a fan of
both. And if I'm repeating anything anyone has said, I
apologize.
Spalding came out of the theatre world, he was one of
the founding members of The Wooster Group, along with
Willem DaFoe and his partner Elizabeth LeCompte. And
Spalding too had some film roles. I think I remember
seeing him once as host on Saturday Night Live.
I think though that he's most known for his monologues
and performances. My opinion is that he was one of a
kind. I see similarities to Eric Bogosian and yes Joe
Frank, but all 3 are distinctive in their own way.
Having lost a very dear friend to suicide, I can only
imagine what was going through his head when he
climbed up on the rail of the Staten Island Ferry and
plunged to his death. Is it worse for the family to
have to wait months to find out their loved one truly
did kill himself? Or is it better to discover the
truth of the tragedy immediately. I don't know.

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> From: "Phares Gonzales" <bluenile at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank Converts
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> I guess I see a corelation that others do not. I
> just naturally assumed that
> if monologists were a persons thing, they would be
> aware of both artists. I
> think people who appreciate Spaldings sardonic wit
> would have no problem
> understanding or appreciating Joe Franks, thus I
> stick JF cd's into their
> hands whenever possible.
> 
> Secondly, I don't mean to belittle or neglect the
> tragic death of Spalding
> Gray. The events leading to his decision to commit
> suicide were intriguing
> and I was wondering if anyone had more information
> about this.
> 
> Third, it was through this forum that I found out
> about Spalding's death in
> the first place. So I don't think that I am the only
> person who associates
> these two artists with one another.
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> > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:10:28 -0800
> > From: "Phares Gonzales" <bluenile at sbcglobal.net>
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> > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a
> chance to see just how many
> people were followers of his work. I am surprised to
> see that they are not
> as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them
> copies of Joe that I made
> from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a
> broader interest in Los
> Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the
> word of Joe out to the
> people.
> >
> > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar
> with the incidences
> leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world
> seems a little more empty
> knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk
> and talk about it until
> this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away.
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> >     Forgive my ignorance, but what is the
> connection between Spalding Gray
> and Joe Frank?  Was he on the show?  What episodes? 
> Who did he play?
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>              Mandel
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> >   Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a
> chance to see just how
> many people were followers of his work. I am
> surprised to see that they are
> not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them
> copies of Joe that I
> made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate
> a broader interest in
> Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get
> the word of Joe out to
> the people.
> >
> >   On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar
> with the incidences
> leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world
> seems a little more empty
> knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk
> and talk about it until
> this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away.
> >
> >
> >
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