[joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank Converts

Phares Gonzales bluenile at sbcglobal.net
Thu Mar 18 14:04:04 PST 2004


I guess I see a corelation that others do not. I just naturally assumed that
if monologists were a persons thing, they would be aware of both artists. I
think people who appreciate Spaldings sardonic wit would have no problem
understanding or appreciating Joe Franks, thus I stick JF cd's into their
hands whenever possible.

Secondly, I don't mean to belittle or neglect the tragic death of Spalding
Gray. The events leading to his decision to commit suicide were intriguing
and I was wondering if anyone had more information about this.

Third, it was through this forum that I found out about Spalding's death in
the first place. So I don't think that I am the only person who associates
these two artists with one another.

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> Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many
people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not
as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made
from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los
Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the
people.
>
> On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences
leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty
knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until
this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away.
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> From: "Manuel Cabrera Jr." <semiote at earthlink.net>
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>     Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between Spalding Gray
and Joe Frank?  Was he on the show?  What episodes?  Who did he play?
>
>                                                                 Mandel
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>   Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how
many people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are
not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I
made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in
Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to
the people.
>
>   On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences
leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty
knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until
this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away.
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> Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Trying to Make Converts
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> None that I know of other than they're both monologists who would appeal
to
> similar audiences.
>
> I'm very sad for his family.
>
> [Q "What do you think about other major monologists and performance
artists
> such as Eric Bogosian and Spaulding Gray?"
> JF "I think they are very good at what they do. They do what they do and I
do
> what I do."
> Q "Do you have any sort of dialogue with any of them?"
> JF "No."
> ]
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>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Manuel Cabrera Jr.
>
> Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between Spalding Gray and
> Joe Frank?  Was he on the show?  What episodes?  Who did he play?
>
>                                                                 Mandel
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Phares Gonzales
>
>   Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how
many
> people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not
as
> familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made
from
> the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los
Angeles
> again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the
people.
>
>   On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences
> leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty
> knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it
until
> this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away.
>
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> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:51:58 -0800 (PST)
> From: "innadadadavida at yahoo.com" <innadadadavida at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [joe-frank-list] Sandra Tsing Loh (was Re: Joe Frank on WFMU)
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> >funny coincidence?
> >i just read that Sandra Tsing Loh just got kicked off
> >the air at KCRW too
>
> One of Joe Frank's inner circle once posted here promising details of the
> circumstances around his being kicked off KCRW; we didn't ever get that,
but
> it wouldn't surprise me if it concerned his 'offensive' content (there was
> that recording on one of his programs of Seymour chastizing him about his
> language.)
>
> Anyway, Loh's sacking is a minor cause celebre --
> their joint statement: <http://www.kcrw.com/show/ll>
> Loh's Time piece:
> <http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0,8816,601645,00.html>
>
> One might not want to shed a tear at Howard Stern's troubles, but our
> retrograde society's kulturkampf claims other victims.
>
> "I've seen the future and it is John Tesh. . . music.  Pre-recorded."
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