What is ELWire? | This is electroluminescent wire Which is basically a copper core wire, with a phostphor material "sputtered" onto it, then 2 very fine small wires ~26 gauge wrapped around it, then ontop of that is a colors (sometimes - depends on the color) plastic coating, then a normal plastic insulation on top of that. When AC current at the proper voltage, and frequency is applied to this wire, it glows very beatifully. |
What colors does it come in? | Thin: White, Ice(aqua -blue/green), Violet, Red,
Pink, Green, Yellow, Marine Blue
Thick: White, Ice(aqua -blue/green), Red, Green, Yellow, Marine Blue |
What is the difference between thick and thin ELwire? | One is thicker the the other , about 1 mm. Not much difference, just one is thicker, stiffer, and appears to have more light. When really it does not. The copper core of the wire is the same thickness in all the wire products. |
Does the thick wire use more energy? | No, its the same thing, only one has thicker insulation |
Why does the thick wire look brighter? | It appears brighter because the light is diffused in the insulation. |
I'm not entirely clear on what is powering these wires. I wanted
to get two kinds of wire. Are the driver/sequencer only powered by plugging
them in? is there anything special I need to order to power them with batteries?
I don't know anything about electricity, so what do I need to "make it work?" |
In a nutshell to power the wire you need a driver. The driver
is powered
by a battery in the case of the ones I have available. EL wire runs off of high-voltage AC. AC is the same kin of power that you have in your wall outlets in your house. Only EL wire uses it with higher volage, higher frequency, and less amperage. I could explain it more, but for basic knowlege thats what it runs off of. So in order to make the wire portable we have built drivers which take low voltage DC (battery power) and converts it to what we need for the wire (high-voltage AC) So... you will need this: Battery-----Driver----ELWire in order to make it work. Now
all of the
Depending on the amount of wire you want to run, will determine how
many, and what kinds of drivers you will want to get. There is a
guidline on how many feet each driver will power next to the item number
in the order form.
What *is* good to know is this. Think of the colors of wire you want, and the lengths. build your project in your head, so you can get an idea of what you want. Then know that the wire in order to be portable needs to run off of batteries usually 9 Volt DC batters (standard 9 Volt batteries) So in order for the 9 VDC battery to power the wire, it needs a "driver" a driver converts the 9 VDC power to high-voltage AC which is what the wire needs to run. Each driver has a rating for how much wire it will run. most of my projects I use the high-power Varad, which will run 30' of EL wire. Now that 30' can be 15 - 2' pieces, or 3 - 10' pieces, or a 30' pieces or whatever, as long as the total is not over 30'. Then you would need a second driver if you go over 30'. |
Technical stuff - Do you know how to work with it? | So far as I know it's pretty simple stuff.
The intensity of the light generated is actually a response to the frequency
of the AC current you run through it as opposed to voltage. You can
simply put a standard household outlet on one end and plug it in to the
wall (or an inverter for that matter).
The current draw is miniscule. I think it's something like 1 amp/800 feet or on that order. Very low draw. A few notes:
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Why will you only sell in 10 foot length | When you deal with over 100 orders at a time, small orders do not
make sence. When I recieve the wire, everyone wants it ASAP, so I encourage larger order. |
Can longer lengths be ordered from you? | I sent out a joke last year, telling everyone I would send them the
wire
in 10 foot lengths. It was a joke. If you order 100' of a color, you will get a 100' long piece. It would take more time to cut 10 pieces then one 100' piece! I'll look into wording it better on the page. |
Can you splice together colors? How would you make the lights change? | It is constructed more or less like coaxial cable.
The wire has 2
conductors. Terminating the strand amounts to connecting the conductors together to form a circuit. Splicing should not be a problem. I had the chance to speak to one of their engineers
once for about a half
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If you have several colors going at once, do you need a controller for each color? | No. the high power varad will power up to 30' of wire.
any wire. So you
can have 30-1' pieces all hooked up to one driver, or one 30' piece, or any combination. |
How long does it last on a 9V battery? | That depends on the battery. I have found most batteries to last
around 5
hours with the max amount of wire on the high power varad driver. I do not know with the other drivers, but I would imagine about the same |
How long until orders are delivered? | Probably mid-late May. It depends on if enough people order wire sooner rather then later. Thats why I am doing the price jump at the end of April. I want to make sure everyone orders now. |
A couple application notes.
I just dug out my data sheets from a while back. The efficiency of the wire peaks at 100VAC but
is still acceptable as low
Power consumption is higher at higher frequencies.
It seems to average
Brightness at 100VAC is nearly 3 times greater
at 1000hz compared to
Current consumption is averaging around .002 Amps per meter.
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You will need a circuit to drive it at 200VAC
at 1200Hz. Sipex makes a nice SMT SOT-8 chip that takes only a couple of
external components, all surface mount.
This is a clue only to how they decided to do it. SMT SOT-8 is a package type not a part #. See if you can get a part #. When I get a chance, I'll try and look at a Sipex web site. It's probably a micro power low voltage oscillator that drives some sort of step up device (cheap switchmode or IF transformer probably). Maybe the step-up's already on the chip... Ok, it's later now - I've been to the web page. Sipex makes Electroluminscent Lamp drivers. I'm printing out some app. notes right now. I'll look it all over. Yes, this seems like the way to go if this stuff applies well to EL Wire (I'm sure it does). I know some of this stuff is for watch dials but it looks like theres some others for more power. I'll have to look over this data. I have the feeling we'll be seeing a lot of this stuff in '99, should be fun to see what people do with it. Hint: Moto HC05's are cheap and have alot of pins that can be pulsed. Hmmm, I'm pretty sure he/she's referring to a *series* of Motorola CMOS low voltage digital parts but I'm not sure. HC05 alone is not a good # I'm pretty sure.... As far as sequencing goes, simple logic gate based circuits are probably the easiest thing unless there's a Gigsvillian who's really quick with something like the Basic Stamp. I'm guessing tho that for each "switched segment" of wire, there should be a separate little power supply (which probably isn't as bad as it sounds specially after seeing the Sipex stuff). I say this simply because it *may* be a pain to switch 200V even when there's almost no current involved (I've never tried it). I'd love to see a schematic for some of the switched stuff from last year just |
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I was curious if there were inverters wherein the frequency could either be manually (or ideally, programmatically) altered. I'm a programmer, but don't have much electrical experience, but I'd love to have a system where I could have the frequency altered based on a program, or some other external signal. Any ideas? | The Q&D way would be a
monolithic voltage to frequency converter (the old 9400CJ comes to mind)
fed from a slow speed DA converter or a switchable set of function generators.
Strobe like effects could be possible with square or staircase waveforms.
Alternately a random noise chip would make the light vary, well, randomly.
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The outer shell seems to be clear PVC, so it
can't take extreme heat.
The phosphor doesn't seem to be too affected by the heat from a soldering iron. Another tip: The best way I found to strip
this stuff is to use needle
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Can you splice together colors? How would you make the lights change? | You can splice it together like any other wire.
That's an interesting comment on the color.
I found that there is a
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I'm guessing tho that for each "switched
segment" of wire, there should be a separate little power supply (whichprobably
isn't as bad as it sounds specially after seeing the Sipex stuff).
I say this simply because it *may* be a pain to switch 200V even when there's
almost no current involved (I've never tried it). I'd love to see
a schematic for some of the switched stuff from last year just
It's not too difficult to switch those voltages. If you want to take a HV DC power supply and produce switched HV AC from it, you can do it with 2-3 high-voltage transistors per circuit if you use a double-ended HV power supply (which is easy: two diodes and two capacitors on the output of an inverter) or 4-6 HV transistors on the output of a single-ended power supply. This approach has the advantage that you can control the frequency and duty cycle of each segment individually, for color and brightness variation. If you want to take the output of a HV AC power supply and switch it to various segments, use reed relays (cheap and good for millions of cycles), solid-state relays, or just a triac. Triacs and some solid-state relays will only work if there is a brief off period in the inverter output while it changes polarity. If you're designing your own inverters, that's easy to arrange. If not, you need either a rectangle wave or sine wave inverter, not a square wave inverter. Another approach is to use a single high-power low-voltage double-ended inverter driver connected to a bunch of inverter transformers, with each segment enabled by selectively grounding the other side of a transformer's primary winding with a triac or high-power MOS transistor. This avoids any high-voltage switching, at the expense of one transformer/segment. It also lets you select the voltage for each segment individually. If you have lots of segments and don't need varying
voltages/frequencies for them, I think the triac-switched HV AC output
will end up being the cheapest, simplest way to go. If you're tricky
and add a delayed turnon synchronized with the AC drive, you should be
able to dynamically control the brightness too.
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Could anyone supply me with their proven circuit designs | I'm not on the list, but I've got a proven
design :) We've improved a bit on the 12V circuits that we used last
year on the horse and other costumes. We have eliminated some bulk by switching
the high voltage side with triacs instead of switching the 12 volt side.
I'm just now moving out of the bread board stage and tomorrow I should
have a prototype PC board to test with. These are very simple designs.
The hard part, of course, is the software and wiring labor.
We're still using 12V fixed-rated inverters designed to operate within a given range of wire length. My next goal is to redesign the inverter and integrate it into my switching circuits. If there are any magnetics people out there interested in tackling this project I'd like to talk to them. |
How long does the wire last? | It burns out. At 60hz (household) it'll
lose 1/2 it's luminosity in about 7 years of continuous use. At higher
frequencies, this is much faster. At 2000hz it's still in the range
of hundreds of hours and the stuff is quite bright.
I think it never actually burns out but it does burn down. |
I want to make a kangaroo too, how do I do that? | A sequencer! More details about them will be avaialble in the near future. |
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I just wanted to reiterate a couple of
technical points to make sure I'm
clear: - The fibre's brightness is a function of the
voltage applied.
.... No such inverters that I'm aware of,
but it should be pretty straightforward to build one. If you want
something highly portable, it'll take a dedicated-hardware design.
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