<div dir="ltr"><div>Hey Michal,</div><div><br></div><div>You responded directly to me and not to the list (but I'm cc'ing the list now). I did a search and this is the only email I've seen from you, but I can't rule out something on my end, but your email client may not be responding to the list. If so please resend!<br></div><div><br></div><div>In terms Kate, I'm just glad we're past the Catherine Zeta Jones obsession!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Sander<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:56 AM Michal <<a href="mailto:michal@joefrank.com">michal@joefrank.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font face="Calibri">I have responded in detail in the past (esp
about Kate) but no one seems to be either hearing or getting my
responses..... </font><br>
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<div>Michal Story <br>
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<div>On 9/17/2020 7:15 AM, Sander Antoniades
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<p class="MsoNormal">Figuring out what’s real is sometimes part
of the fun. Like you the one with dogs haunts me a little and
the other which oddly sticks with me is did that Russian guy
who needed help from the Jewish community ever get
circumcised? </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Another question is about Joe’s true story
about After Hours, why does he get unofficial credit at least
in IMDB? He goes on in No Show about it, but what makes it
extra odd is how Larry Block got a role in it and did they
know each other at the time.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for keeping this list alive!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:medium none;padding:0in"><b>From:
</b><a href="mailto:russellbell@gmail.com" target="_blank">russellbell@gmail.com</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:52 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joe-frank-list@armory.com" target="_blank">joe-frank-list@armory.com</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[joe-frank-list] what's real, what's not</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Quoth LD
<a href="mailto:majestic_cheese@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><majestic_cheese@yahoo.com></a>:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> 'It's interesting tracing
Joe's shows down to real life.'</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> I started when I was
researching the 'Congressional Record'</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">for something unrelated and the name 'Meier
Langermann' caught my eye.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I knew the name because I had read the 'LA
Weekly''s profile of Joe 10</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">years earlier. After a few tries, Congress
finally passed a bill 'for</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">the relief of Meier Langermann, his wife
Friederike, and his son</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Joseph' ('relief' = permission to stay in
the US), and FDR vetoed it!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There's a letter from FDR in the
'Congressional Record' rejecting</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Joe's admission into the US. Congress
passed another bill, which he</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">approved. It brought home Joe's plight,
which I hadn't thought about;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">he had just been a guy with a radio show I
occasionally heard.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> 'Some of the stuff seems
very real. Other things obviously</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">concocted, then there's a lot in the
middle.'</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> I sure hope the guy with
the dogs in DC didn't really sicc one</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">on the postman. ('Always'). I also hope
much of Zachary's behavior</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">was exaggerated, if not invented. I notice
Jolly and Zoe never spoke</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">on Joe's shows. Jolly and Larry were
married when Larry died in 2012.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> 'I think the holy grail of
this is Kate herself. Was she even</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">real? Based loosely on a woman a friend of
Joe's was having a</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">relationship with? A total fabrication? I
think Joe took the answer</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">with him.'</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Joe had a lot of friends;
it was a public relationship if it</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">existed. I figure Michal Story, Lester
Nafzger, Harry Shearer,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kristine McKenna, Debi Mae West, David
Rapkin, Bob Carlson must know.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If none of them ever met her, she's
probably an invention.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> I notice that Judith Owen,
who sang on some of Joe's shows in</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">the '90s, is Welsh and beautiful. I've
imagined her as inspiration.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">She's been married to Harry Shearer since
about 1990 and Harry was a</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">friend, so unless it happened before then I
rule her out.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">russell bell</p>
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