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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Figuring out what’s real is sometimes part of the fun. Like you the one with dogs haunts me a little and the other which oddly sticks with me is did that Russian guy who needed help from the Jewish community ever get circumcised? </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Another question is about Joe’s true story about After Hours, why does he get unofficial credit at least in IMDB? He goes on in No Show about it, but what makes it extra odd is how Larry Block got a role in it and did they know each other at the time.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for keeping this list alive!</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:russellbell@gmail.com">russellbell@gmail.com</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:52 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joe-frank-list@armory.com">joe-frank-list@armory.com</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[joe-frank-list] what's real, what's not</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Quoth LD <majestic_cheese@yahoo.com>:</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> 'It's interesting tracing Joe's shows down to real life.'</p><p class=MsoNormal> I started when I was researching the 'Congressional Record'</p><p class=MsoNormal>for something unrelated and the name 'Meier Langermann' caught my eye.</p><p class=MsoNormal>I knew the name because I had read the 'LA Weekly''s profile of Joe 10</p><p class=MsoNormal>years earlier. After a few tries, Congress finally passed a bill 'for</p><p class=MsoNormal>the relief of Meier Langermann, his wife Friederike, and his son</p><p class=MsoNormal>Joseph' ('relief' = permission to stay in the US), and FDR vetoed it!</p><p class=MsoNormal>There's a letter from FDR in the 'Congressional Record' rejecting</p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe's admission into the US. Congress passed another bill, which he</p><p class=MsoNormal>approved. It brought home Joe's plight, which I hadn't thought about;</p><p class=MsoNormal>he had just been a guy with a radio show I occasionally heard.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> 'Some of the stuff seems very real. Other things obviously</p><p class=MsoNormal>concocted, then there's a lot in the middle.'</p><p class=MsoNormal> I sure hope the guy with the dogs in DC didn't really sicc one</p><p class=MsoNormal>on the postman. ('Always'). I also hope much of Zachary's behavior</p><p class=MsoNormal>was exaggerated, if not invented. I notice Jolly and Zoe never spoke</p><p class=MsoNormal>on Joe's shows. Jolly and Larry were married when Larry died in 2012.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> 'I think the holy grail of this is Kate herself. Was she even</p><p class=MsoNormal>real? Based loosely on a woman a friend of Joe's was having a</p><p class=MsoNormal>relationship with? A total fabrication? I think Joe took the answer</p><p class=MsoNormal>with him.'</p><p class=MsoNormal> Joe had a lot of friends; it was a public relationship if it</p><p class=MsoNormal>existed. I figure Michal Story, Lester Nafzger, Harry Shearer,</p><p class=MsoNormal>Kristine McKenna, Debi Mae West, David Rapkin, Bob Carlson must know.</p><p class=MsoNormal>If none of them ever met her, she's probably an invention.</p><p class=MsoNormal> I notice that Judith Owen, who sang on some of Joe's shows in</p><p class=MsoNormal>the '90s, is Welsh and beautiful. I've imagined her as inspiration.</p><p class=MsoNormal>She's been married to Harry Shearer since about 1990 and Harry was a</p><p class=MsoNormal>friend, so unless it happened before then I rule her out.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>russell bell</p><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe Frank Mailing List</p><p class=MsoNormal>joe-frank-list@armory.com</p><p class=MsoNormal>http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>