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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>He was sort of vague about the entire removal
process from Kcrw until last may when he and another Ex personality of KCRW did
a live show on the subject of Ruth Seyour, in los angeles. Even
after seeing an entire show about the subject the facts are still somewhat
unclear. Only his feelings seem to be clear to me, and really
whats more imporant ? who actually said what when, or what the process did
to Joe's soul 3 years on...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some of the content of Joe Live show there has
ended up on the new show on his web site. Times Arrow. I
suggest that you get it.. Its not best work joe has ever done...but it is a way
to show support for his continued work. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob Lee </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=beau@nwcr.net href="mailto:beau@nwcr.net">Beau Gunderson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=joe-frank-list@armory.com
href="mailto:joe-frank-list@armory.com">'Joe Frank Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 29, 2004 2:24
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [joe-frank-list] Re: make
Joe's radio public</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tried in vain to find
the article on joefrank.com about him getting fired (it was more about the
other woman fired by <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Seymour</st1:place></st1:City> but it was pretty informative) but
it’s not there anymore! I even checked the Wayback machine but it wasn’t on
there either. I remember it being linked from the front page, anybody else
know what I’m talking about?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com [mailto:joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>BILLMILOSZ@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:09
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
joe-frank-list@armory.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [joe-frank-list] Re: make
Joe's radio public</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To <A
href="mailto:fsedghip@yahoo.ca">fsedghip@yahoo.ca</A> - you raised some
very interesting ideas, I found your post thought-provoking. Obviously you
took some time putting that together.<BR><BR>As I consider the issues you
raised, many of which impact all of us as consumers of electronic "art"
(music, film, literature, etc.) I want to make a few observations.<BR><BR>You
mention ThisLife.Org - Ira Glass's THIS AMERICAN LIFE program which is
carried on NPR and originates at WBEZ in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Chicago</st1:place></st1:City>. There is an exact parallel
here, Joe Frank used to have a radio "home" at KCRW in <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Santa Monica</st1:place></st1:City>, and they
supported him with some money, maybe some administrative help and also
provided a studio and gear, etc. But Joe and KCRW had some kind of
falling out, if not a falling out then at least a parting of the ways.
I'm not sure what it was all about, except I know Joe is unhappy about
something which he may have experienced as betrayal or some other negative
action by KCRW or it's management. I can't find any info about it, all
I've heard / read /seen from Joe on the issue is, "Oh, let's not go into that,
let's just move on." I don't know what went wrong, but KCRW DOES seem to
have retreated from any position of leadership they may have had in terms of
free speech and the arts, and they seem to be getting more conservative. Maybe
it's all that money- I've read that KCRW raises more $$$ than any other NPR
affiliate. <BR><BR>In any event, Joe Frank doesn't have a "patron" in the same
way that Ira Glass does at WBEZ, so he can't offer all his stuff for
free. It USED to be online for free at KCRW, but those days have passed.
(Maybe Ira Glass should pay some royalties to Joe, after all he learned his
craft as an intern on Joe's show- some of the This American Life
programs even use some of the same music used in Joe Frank programs.....
but actually I doubt if Ira Glass & CO have money laying around in great
heaps.)<BR><BR>Maybe we all need to writing our congressmen to have Joe
declared a living national treasure and have his work supported by a lifetime
federal stipend or something, but you know all that security might take the
edge off his work. ;-)<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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