[joe-frank-list] 'Four-part dissonance'

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Sat Feb 12 06:35:37 PST 2022


	Larry calls Joe.  Joe's had a long day, is busy.  Larry
complains that Joe talks about himself; Joe says the same about Larry
- they argue.  Larry tells a joke contrasting California agents with
NY agents.
	3:20: Gregory Poe tells Joe about his success as a fashion
designer beginning at age 20.  A Japanese company hired him to design
for them.  They worked him hard; he took speed to keep up; he
hallucinated.  He felt exploited.
	8:30: Joe tells Larry his fantasy about shooting himself.
('So I was thinking of going down and purchasing a hand gun - this is
my latest fantasy - bring it back in my house - and you know I'm
terribly afraid of death but at the same time I just don't want to
keep on thinking.  The idea is to fire off rounds into my lawn and
then quickly - maybe having drunk a half a bottle of vodka or
something - then turn the gun on myself to just take a quick shot.')
	9:50: Gregory Poe tells Joe about the show in NY that went
well but the company closed 6 weeks later.
	10:50: Jack Kornfield talks about family pain.  He says
spiritual communities attract people with family pain; they hope that
spiritual life will cure it; he says it may not.
	14:30: Larry tells Joe about a psychologist, Portia, who made
sexual advances to him, so they disengaged; she recommended he see her
therapist.  (Larry describes himself as 'young, muscular, and
fancy-free', which tickles Joe.)  Larry ended up having sex with her
daughter, Carol.  (They met when Larry was '31 or 32' (1973-5) and she
was 14.)  4 years later they made love.  (Larry says it was 'mid-'70s
- 76, 77'.)
	21:10: Joe tells Larry about a very old therapist he saw, who
listened through headphones, the patients on a mic.
	22:00: Larry tells Joe what he's drinking.
	23:30: Joe tells Larry what he's drinking.  He drank during
dinner at his mother's.  (It seems she's living in Santa Monica.)
	24:10: Larry recurs to the summer he did 'Comedy of errors' in
Central Park (1975).  He brags about 3 beautiful women he had affairs
with that summer.  (Joe asks if they're recognizable names.  Larry
says, 'One readily, the second not-so-readily, and the third is a
professor of theatre at Rutgers - and she'd be the one I'd probably go
to if the three of them came back to me again... Within 1 week I had
sexual romance with these 3 beautiful women.')
	27:00: Larry describes his trip to see Portia's therapist.  He
brags about how great he looked in his 'farmer jeans' (I think he
means overalls.) and Birkenstocks.  Riding a bicycle through Central
Park 4 Hassids invite him to lay tefillin
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tefillin) and pray with them.  Later he
told this story to a lover, which stimulated her.  She had her own
phylacteries, had Larry wrap her up in them.
	34:30: Joe tells Larry he knows couples who make love wrapped
up in a Torah.  Larry talks about the expensive Torahs wealthy Jews
buy.
	36:00: Jack Kornfield talks about people gathering to pray,
that community is necessary to spiritual life.  He tells of the rabbi
who asks his students how to know when night has ended.  (originally
aired in 'Karma, part 6')
	38:30: Gregory Poe tells Joe about finding a drunk guy passed
out underneath his truck.  He asked his drunk buddies to get the guy
out.  When he got back from work they gave him a goat.
	40:50: Larry tells Joe that Jolly and Zoe 'persecuted' him for
his drinking.  They kick him out; he stays at this other apartment he
has for the night, returns during the day.
	42:30: Kornfield talks about how difficult family life can be.
	43:40: Larry finally arrives at the session with Portia's
therapist.  She objects to Larry's outfit, refuses to see him.
	46:20: Gregory Poe tells Joe that he gave up on fashion.  A
friend in NY called him, asked him to take care of her mother, who
lived in Laguna.  He ended up committing her because she was
incompetent, describes the mess in her house.  He cleaned up,
renovated, and sold her house for a good price.
	50:50: Kornfield says the awakened heart does not judge, deals
with pain and suffering.
	53:30: Larry leaves a humorous message on his answering
machine.
	54:20: Kornfield tells the story of a military officer,
impatient with a customer in front of him, who showed her baby to the
cashier, who cooed over him.
	55:50: Kornfield describes the practice of loving god by
loving your neighbor.

	From the broadcast, 'You've been listening to Joe Frank "The
other side".  This program was called "Four part dissonance" with
Larry Block, Gregory Poe, Buddhist teacher Jack Kornfield, and Joe
Frank - production: Ray Guarna; production assistance: Esme Gregson;
music consultant: Thomas Golubic.'

	joefrank.com added 'remix' to the name of this episode; except
for the segment at 36:00 it's all original content.

	http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Four_Part_Dissonance

russell bell


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