[joe-frank-list] 'Fire and ice'

[russellbell at gmail.com]

	Debi tells Joe about Friday night at the Mandalay (a club),
how great Malcolm looks.  They're celebrating that Malcolm told his
wife that he's leaving her, that he's changing his life to be with
Debi.
	3:50: Larry tells Joe about the drive he took on valium and
liquor.  He side-swiped a police car; the cop let him go because he
was so in control.
	12:10: Debi tells Joe about going to lunch with her mother
yesterday.  Debi's happy with herself. Later we hear Malcolm sing and
play.
	22:30: Larry tells Joe that drinking puts him in the mood to
eat, valium puts him in the mood to drink.  Joe tells Larry about a
year ago when he drank, took valium, and drove.
	25:10: Debi tells Joe that Malcolm sat with her while she
chanted.
	28:20: Larry tells Joe about Mike Wallace
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Wallace) coming out as a
depressed-person.  Joe reminds Larry of his interview with General
Westmoreland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Westmoreland).
Larry reads a fragment of his latest poem.
	31:40: Joe tells Larry that he thinks he must address the
emotional damage he has suffered via psychotherapy.  Larry thinks
drugs are more effective.  Larry talks about black jeans.
	36:50: Kristine McKenna talks about the people he knows who
are damaged inside; they have to struggle with their trauma.
	38:30: Kristine McKenna tells Joe about a fellow she met at a
party.  Though she didn't like or respect him, she went out with him,
had a relationship.  He told her he wasn't in love with her: he wasn't
enchanted with her.  She tired of him, broke off with him.  Afterwards
she'd sneak into his place when he was absent to hang out.
	48:20: Larry tells Joe he was taking valium and drinking.  His
family is unhappy with his substance abuse.  He says he has to do it
because he feels so bad.  Jolly took his scotch and valium away.  He
promises his family that he'll stop.  On his way home from a meeting
with his children's school he buys a bottle.  He sounds intoxicated.
	55:30: Larry reads Joe his poem, 'To a woman of a certain
age'.  He sounds sober.

	From the broadcast, 'You've been listening to Joe Frank "The
other side".  This program was called "Fire and ice" with Larry Block,
Debi Mae West, Kristine McKenna, and Joe Frank - production:
J. C. Swiatek, production assistance: Esme Gregson'

http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Fire_And_Ice

russell bell