From russellbell at gmail.com Wed Mar 3 04:01:20 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 05:01:20 -0700
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Just hold me'
Message-ID: <202103031201.123C1KlS014523@randytool.net>
Joe's in a band that works at the bar in Surfside Inn, a
beach-front motel, near Montauk Point. (There is a Surfside Inn in
Montauk NY, http://www.surfsideinnmontauk.com .) They play the
loudest, raunchiest rock'n'roll, a 2-week gig. Lily runs the hotel;
her daughter Lorraine runs the bar; Lorraine drinks too much and
smokes marijuana. Lorraine has a daughter, Helen, 8 or 9, who makes
friends with everyone.
Joe and Lorraine are the only night-owls, spend a lot of late
nights together.
One night Lorraine takes Joe to Montauk Point, 'the furthest,
most eastern part of the US'. (Montauk Point is the most eastern part
of Long Island, NY, not the US; West Quoddy Head, Maine is.) They
make love afterwards. She warns him to stay away from her repeatedly.
6 months later, after having moved on, they come back to play
a wedding. Lorraine attends. They make a date to meet afterwards but
Joe sees her being taken drunkenly away. At the Surfside Inn Lily
tells her she doesn't work there anymore. Joe checks out their old
haunts, doesn't find her.
6:30: Joe's in LA, staying with his friends David and Nancy,
counting on Chevy Chase to get him a job. David and Nancy want him
out. Feeling unwelcome, Joe leaves, lives out of his 'bus', Althea.
Chevy doesn't help him.
11:10: Joe meets a woman at the bar, buys her a drink, takes
her home when he sees her drunk in the parking lot later. She wants
him to stay with her, just hold her, not for sex.
14:20: Joe visits Danny, who has tears in his eyes, had a
dream that Joe had been stabbed. They hug, breaking Joe's new
glasses. Danny asks his mother, Beth, if he can have a cigarette now.
Beth remembers what a good student he was at Sidwell Friends (DC's
most prestigious prep school). Danny asks her to shoot him.
16:30: It's summer in Virginia; Joe and Katie are building a
house in the woods on the Thornton river
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thornton_River - a nice spot) in
Culpeper County (now a DC exurb). They listen to the Orioles on the
radio, hang out in the lot at the 7-11, watch people. Joe feels
blessed.
18:10: Joe calls his mother, who's at a nursing home in
Wheaton (Maryland, near Washington); she says they treat her terribly,
wants Joe to get her out. Because Donald has borrowed the car Joe has
to take the subway. (Service to Wheaton began in 1990 -
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheaton_station - longest escalators
in the Western Hemisphere!) When Joe arrives she's sleeping
peacefully; he holds her without waking her up.
20:40: Katie, how wonderful she was; Joe found it unbearable
how much she loved him. Joe works on a construction site in Cleveland
Park (a nice residential section of Washington; the Mondales lived
there when he was vice-president.), plots to make time with another
woman while Katie brings him lunch.
21:50: Joe describes a picture of Danny and his sister at
their home in Garrett Park (Maryland, another DC suburb) taken in the
'50s, how great Danny looked, how charming and talented he was. He
dropped out of college, joined the Air Force, went on bombing
missions, which damaged him. He lives with his mother, who allots him
a cigarette an hour.
This is perhaps Joe's most sentimental show. Joe gives a name
to everyone, even his bus, even unintroduced characters (who's
Donald?), except the woman he met at the bar (reflecting her distance
from his character); he told the story of a guy in 'Another Country',
3 hours, without ever saying his name. Much of it happens around
Washington, DC. The stories are almost certainly fictional. His
mother was living with her husband, not in a nursing home, in 1994. I
don't think Joe was in a rock band, worked construction, built a house
in rural Virginia. Wheaton didn't have a subway station until 1990,
after Joe moved away. I've lived in the area, been to all these
places, listened to Orioles' games: he uses the locale believably.
'Home (remix)' is 'Just hold me' followed by an edited-down
version of 'Home'.
http://www.jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Just_Hold_Me
From russellbell at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 04:25:36 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 05:25:36 -0700
Subject: [joe-frank-list] Culpeper county
Message-ID: <202103041225.124CPaKV001651@randytool.net>
I took the ferry across Lake Nicaragua in 1989, an all-day
trip. I tried to sit with the Nicaraguans, but they shoved me off
their bench, so I sat with the gringos.
I struck up a conversation with a guy on his way to the San
Juan del Sur area to help build houses. He and his wife had left DC
in the '60s, bought a farm in Culpeper county for $5,000 (!). Its
value as farmland had disappeared with the rise of large-scale
agriculture and Interstate highways that made moving vegetables and
fruits from California, Florida, Texas, and Arizona cheap (which was
affordable because the federal taxpayer subsidized their water -
thanks, suckers!); DC had yet to grow large enough for its workers to
live as far out as Culpeper. His wife was a carpenter, the only one
in the county then, had a hard time breaking into the workforce.
When they had a kid, they moved to town so he could have a
friend, sold the farm for a good price ($50,000, if I remember
rightly). Maybe it was on the Thornton river.
I never asked his name, or gave mine.
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Sat Mar 6 15:00:36 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 16:00:36 -0700
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Caged heart'
Message-ID: <202103062300.126N0aW2028718@randytool.net>
Larry Block mis-reads a line at rehearsal in Seattle, gets
angry when others correct him.
3:10: Larry laments his despair, says his family is glad to
have him out.
5:40: Larry fantasizes about working at a business that
unloads cars from trains, living a working-man's life.
12: Other Joe Franks (originally aired in 'Joe Frank's
America')
17:50: Milton Schindler recites the 23rd Psalm (sounds of a
restaurant in the background)
18:40: Schindler tells of 'coming out of an etherized session
when I slit my wrists at Cedars of Sinai' (a hospital in Los Angeles)
in 1986. (He was born in 1925.) The physicians and his mother were
there. They asked him what he wanted to do with his life. He told
them he wanted to be a rabbi. He claims that he was always interested
in the spiritual life, that Lesley (the masseuse he met in 'No angel')
shares that.
21:10: Jack Kornfield talks about how aversion results from
disappointment, eventually we end up caging our hearts.
25:10: Kornfield tells a joke about Jesus getting mad that
all sorts of unsuitable people (gamblers, drinkers...) are in Heaven.
He upbraids Peter, who tells him that his mother is letting them in
through the back door.
28:40: Debi Mae West tells of woman who died in her apartment.
She had put a lobster up her vagina, (An urban legend:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lobster-love/). Then she tells of
her difficulty masturbating.
31: Larry cuts down on the grapefruit juice when he's
drinking tequila.
32: Kornfield tells the fable of a woman sent by Buddha to get
a mustard seed from a home in which no one had died.
34: Kornfield reads from Sharon Olds's poem, 'I go back to May
1937'
(https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47057/i-go-back-to-may-1937),
about preventing her parents from meeting.
35:50: Kornfield asks what it means to see things as they are,
how he tries to see everyone's eyes as Buddha's.
36:50: Debi tells of neighbor addicted to women: he needs to
'conquer' every woman he meets. (She greets Joel with a kiss in the
midst of her conversation.) He picks up on a friend of hers, Debi
warns her about him, she tells him, Debi and he get into a fight.
40:50: More other Joe Franks (originally aired in 'Joe Frank's
America')
48:40: Kornfield talks about accepting that we're going to
lose everything, die.
51:30: Kornfield tells about the Buddha taking up teaching
after his enlightenment.
53:30: Kornfield tells about Carl Jung and the patient who
decided she was going to marry him.
56:50: Larry's unhappy at the library, leaves, passes a
Presbyterian church, goes in, hoping for a little peace, doesn't find
any, goes home and drinks a bunch of tequila.
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 12:02:21 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 13:02:21 -0700
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'The loved one'
Message-ID: <202103092002.129K2LNw001619@randytool.net>
From russellbell at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 05:03:42 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 06:03:42 -0700
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'The loved one'
Message-ID: <202103111303.12BD3gGT010715@randytool.net>
Joe tells of Howard, his high school friend, a year older; his
father had died when he was young, his mother was an alcoholic.
Howard asks Joe to kiss him.
His senior year, Howard finds out he's about to inherit a
million dollars from his grandparents. Howard wants Joe to manage his
business ideas (far-fetched). Joe goes to community college; Howard
squanders his inheritance renting a mansion, buying expensive cars,
etc.
'After a number of years' Howard runs out of money, has to
sell all his stuff, ends up broke and homeless. Joe has graduated
from college, has a real job. Howard moves in with him, becomes too
familiar, cooking and cleaning. He paints pictures, can't sell them.
Joe works his way up at work, an importer of expensive vases.
The abusive boss likes him too much, makes a pass at him. Joe quits,
plans to move out. Faced with the news, Howard throws his pictures
out the window then jumps.
Joe visits his friends Vince and Diane in San Francisco.
Diane has fallen out of love with Vince, asks Joe to make love to her,
tears at his clothes; when Joe refuses, she shoots herself.
10:20: 'Is it the smouldering beauty of my purple eyes...' -
Joe is the most beautiful, charming, intelligent, desirable person in
the world, all men and women want to be with him. (re-used in 'Lover
man', 'The loved one (remix)', and 'Waiting for the bell'.)
19:20: Desperate women and men call Joe, plead with him to
make love to them.
23:20: Joe's in north a Redondo Beach (a small city in Los
Angeles county, on the ocean, expensive) bar. Nichole sings along
with the jukebox. Joe has a shot of Old Taylor (a noted bourbon from
Kentucky).
24:00: 2 fat bikers get loud, grab a Korean girl. Joe stands
up to them, gets punched; the bartender throws them out. Nichole
tells Joe he did a good thing. She takes him on her motorcycle to her
old high school, jumps the fence, goes to the pool. She takes off her
clothes, wants Joe to take off his; he demurs - she calls him
'Grandpa'. She swims then takes him to her apartment, which is
trashy. She tells him that her parents took her to amusement park at
the end of a pier (there used to be one on Santa Monica pier) when she
was a girl; in the house of mirrors she saw the face of a beautiful
man, which turns out to be Joe's. Joe puts her off by claiming he has
a girlfriend, a nurse, claims he's a physician, leaves. Nichole comes
after him on her motorcycle; Joe evades her, she hits a parked car and
crashes.
http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Loved_One,_The
russell bell
From sander at antoniades.com Thu Mar 11 14:37:16 2021
From: sander at antoniades.com (Sander Antoniades)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 17:37:16 -0500
Subject: [joe-frank-list] Joe Frank graphic novel
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From russellbell at gmail.com Sun Mar 14 10:07:30 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 11:07:30 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Lover man'
Message-ID: <202103141707.12EH7UKX004203@randytool.net>
'Is it the smouldering beauty of my purple eyes...' - Joe is
the most beautiful, charming, intelligent, desirable person in the
world, all men and women want to be with him. (originally aired in
'The loved one')
9:40: Desperate women and men call Joe, plead with him to make
love to them. (originally aired in 'The loved one')
14:00: Milton Schindler tells of his college (University of
Chicago) friend Bob, now a 'very big physician'. (This was 1944-5.)
Bob was in love with Jane, whom Schindler describes as the most
beautiful woman he has ever seen. Bob wanted to make love to Jane;
she demurred. All 3 go to dinner together, Schindler to second Bob's
plea. At his instance, Bob and Jane have an extremely active sex
life, break up after college.
16:20: A woman (accent - French?) tells how tired she is.
18:50: Joe asks where she would like to go. She doesn't
answer; he offers an idea.
21:00: Joe tells of traveling down the Amazon in search of the
ruins of an ancient Mayan civilization (Mayans didn't live on the
Amazon.) The boat capsizes; everyone drowns but Joe. Natives who had
never seen a White man before take him. He shows them his stuff:
jet-pack, camcorder and projector, satellite TV... They're so
impressed they sell the rights to their land to Joe's associates (Joe
has a satellite phone.). Timber companies, miners, oil companies,
turn their land to waste. They squander their fortune and end up
worse off. Joe books a cruise to Mallorca, which is uneventful.
25:50: Joe tells of a maid who cleans a house in the suburbs,
is inhumanly nice; she knows the secrets of the family. When she
finds out they're going to replace her, she gets drunk, wreaks havoc,
leaves. (In the beginning of the story she commutes by bus from her
home; later, she has a room above the garage.) She packs her bag,
sings jazz in nightclubs. (originally in 'Emerald isle')
31:30: To the sound of a band an MC welcomes us to the Kit Kat
Club in Duluth and singer Bessie Washington. (originally in 'Emerald
isle')
32:50: Years later Joe sees her singing at a nightclub; she
brings tears to people's eyes. Joe makes love to her later. (*not*
in 'Emerald isle' - did Joe add it to 'Lover man' or edit it out of
'Emerald isle'?)
34:00: Schindler tells a woman a story of his father's death,
later meets an old baker at the Brooklyn Bagel Factory in Los Angeles
who knew his father; Schindler laments that he had been embarrassed
that his father had been a baker. (In this story Schindler says that
he had been born in Omaha, moved to New York when he was young, which
is consistent with Census records.)
35:50: A guy tells what his band, Mascara, wore. He couldn't
go out without women attacking him. They kidnap and violate him. In
his rescue police kill all the women; he retires from music.
(originally in 'Words')
40:50: Schindler says that suicide is a permanent solution to
a temporary problem.
41:10: Joe appeals to a woman he saw at the Laemmle Theatre in
Santa Monica at a viewing of 'Breaking the waves' to contact him.* He
left his umbrella behind; when he went back to retrieve it she had it
for him. Joe was barely able to speak, he's so taken with her. He
imagines their life together. Joe wants her to call KCRW, leave her
name and number.
45:00: Joe tells of looking at a Botero (Fernando Botero,
Colombian artist - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Botero)
painting next to a woman - but he can't find anything to say to her.
Joe wants her to call him at KCRW - or one of the Japanese schoolgirls
who were also there.
46:30: Joe's in Petco, falls in love with an outdoorsy woman,
imagines their life together, wants her to call.
49:20: Schindler says he didn't sleep with any woman who
didn't want to marry him, not even his eventual wife. After 18 years
of happy ('fairy-tale') marriage Lou, his boss, sends him a girl as a
reward for what he did for the company. After that he hires girls
every time he's out of town; the woman to whom he's speaking asks if
he ever told his wife ('Joanie'); he says he didn't.
52:20: Two people (a man and a woman, I think) with distorted
voices tell each other how sick of each other they are. (originally
in 'Words')
57:10: Milton Schindler*** gets a trip to Hawaii from the
company, takes a tour, sees a pineapple canning factory, sees that the
factory puts the same pineapples into every brand. A week later he's
shopping at Gelson's (an expensive grocery store in Los Angeles) where
he buys the Dole (the most expensive brand).**
http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Lover_Man
* I saw <i>Breaking the waves</i> at Laemmle's 4-plex in Santa
Monica; perhaps it was a different showing. Carl Laemmle was the
founder of Universal Studios. A chain of movie theatres in southern
California bear his name.
** I've been to Gelson's; I don't know that they carry the
discount brand of anything. When I lived in Pasadena (early '70s),
for a few years I lived a block away from Pasadena's Gelson's. I
almost never saw a car in the parking lot. They delivered, possibly
the only grocery store in Pasadena that did then. Most of their
business may have been delivery to the wealthy people.
*** Schindler sounds like a braggart to me; I don't
automatically credit anything he says.
From sally at oilostatic.com Sun Mar 14 14:40:48 2021
From: sally at oilostatic.com (Sally Thurer)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 17:40:48 -0400
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Lover man'
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The Woody Allen movie, Alice, has a similar scene. I prefer joe's though.
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 1:10 PM <russellbell at gmail.com> wrote:
> 'Is it the smouldering beauty of my purple eyes...' - Joe is
> the most beautiful, charming, intelligent, desirable person in the
> world, all men and women want to be with him. (originally aired in
> 'The loved one')
>
> 9:40: Desperate women and men call Joe, plead with him to make
> love to them. (originally aired in 'The loved one')
>
> 14:00: Milton Schindler tells of his college (University of
> Chicago) friend Bob, now a 'very big physician'. (This was 1944-5.)
> Bob was in love with Jane, whom Schindler describes as the most
> beautiful woman he has ever seen. Bob wanted to make love to Jane;
> she demurred. All 3 go to dinner together, Schindler to second Bob's
> plea. At his instance, Bob and Jane have an extremely active sex
> life, break up after college.
>
> 16:20: A woman (accent - French?) tells how tired she is.
>
> 18:50: Joe asks where she would like to go. She doesn't
> answer; he offers an idea.
>
> 21:00: Joe tells of traveling down the Amazon in search of the
> ruins of an ancient Mayan civilization (Mayans didn't live on the
> Amazon.) The boat capsizes; everyone drowns but Joe. Natives who had
> never seen a White man before take him. He shows them his stuff:
> jet-pack, camcorder and projector, satellite TV... They're so
> impressed they sell the rights to their land to Joe's associates (Joe
> has a satellite phone.). Timber companies, miners, oil companies,
> turn their land to waste. They squander their fortune and end up
> worse off. Joe books a cruise to Mallorca, which is uneventful.
>
> 25:50: Joe tells of a maid who cleans a house in the suburbs,
> is inhumanly nice; she knows the secrets of the family. When she
> finds out they're going to replace her, she gets drunk, wreaks havoc,
> leaves. (In the beginning of the story she commutes by bus from her
> home; later, she has a room above the garage.) She packs her bag,
> sings jazz in nightclubs. (originally in 'Emerald isle')
>
> 31:30: To the sound of a band an MC welcomes us to the Kit Kat
> Club in Duluth and singer Bessie Washington. (originally in 'Emerald
> isle')
>
> 32:50: Years later Joe sees her singing at a nightclub; she
> brings tears to people's eyes. Joe makes love to her later. (*not*
> in 'Emerald isle' - did Joe add it to 'Lover man' or edit it out of
> 'Emerald isle'?)
>
> 34:00: Schindler tells a woman a story of his father's death,
> later meets an old baker at the Brooklyn Bagel Factory in Los Angeles
> who knew his father; Schindler laments that he had been embarrassed
> that his father had been a baker. (In this story Schindler says that
> he had been born in Omaha, moved to New York when he was young, which
> is consistent with Census records.)
>
> 35:50: A guy tells what his band, Mascara, wore. He couldn't
> go out without women attacking him. They kidnap and violate him. In
> his rescue police kill all the women; he retires from music.
> (originally in 'Words')
>
> 40:50: Schindler says that suicide is a permanent solution to
> a temporary problem.
>
> 41:10: Joe appeals to a woman he saw at the Laemmle Theatre in
> Santa Monica at a viewing of 'Breaking the waves' to contact him.* He
> left his umbrella behind; when he went back to retrieve it she had it
> for him. Joe was barely able to speak, he's so taken with her. He
> imagines their life together. Joe wants her to call KCRW, leave her
> name and number.
>
> 45:00: Joe tells of looking at a Botero (Fernando Botero,
> Colombian artist - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Botero)
> painting next to a woman - but he can't find anything to say to her.
> Joe wants her to call him at KCRW - or one of the Japanese schoolgirls
> who were also there.
>
> 46:30: Joe's in Petco, falls in love with an outdoorsy woman,
> imagines their life together, wants her to call.
>
> 49:20: Schindler says he didn't sleep with any woman who
> didn't want to marry him, not even his eventual wife. After 18 years
> of happy ('fairy-tale') marriage Lou, his boss, sends him a girl as a
> reward for what he did for the company. After that he hires girls
> every time he's out of town; the woman to whom he's speaking asks if
> he ever told his wife ('Joanie'); he says he didn't.
>
> 52:20: Two people (a man and a woman, I think) with distorted
> voices tell each other how sick of each other they are. (originally
> in 'Words')
>
> 57:10: Milton Schindler*** gets a trip to Hawaii from the
> company, takes a tour, sees a pineapple canning factory, sees that the
> factory puts the same pineapples into every brand. A week later he's
> shopping at Gelson's (an expensive grocery store in Los Angeles) where
> he buys the Dole (the most expensive brand).**
>
> http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Lover_Man
>
> * I saw <i>Breaking the waves</i> at Laemmle's 4-plex in Santa
> Monica; perhaps it was a different showing. Carl Laemmle was the
> founder of Universal Studios. A chain of movie theatres in southern
> California bear his name.
>
> ** I've been to Gelson's; I don't know that they carry the
> discount brand of anything. When I lived in Pasadena (early '70s),
> for a few years I lived a block away from Pasadena's Gelson's. I
> almost never saw a car in the parking lot. They delivered, possibly
> the only grocery store in Pasadena that did then. Most of their
> business may have been delivery to the wealthy people.
>
> *** Schindler sounds like a braggart to me; I don't
> automatically credit anything he says.
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From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 05:35:09 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Zen'
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Milton Schindler tells of working in Vernon (a small town in
Los Angeles county) in 1959. He was seeing a psychiatrist for his
difficulties (unnamed). For 5 or 6 months he flew to Las Vegas on
Friday nights to gamble. He won in the beginning. (He was with his
friend Frank DiSalvo and his wife.) He stopped seeing the
psychiatrist and went to Vegas instead. He claims he won tens of
thousands the first 8-9 months - then he lost big, kited checks, got
$80-100K in debt. A big fire destroyed his business (making picture
tubes). Thugs from one of the casinos threatened him. He never paid
them back, never went back to Vegas.
7:10: A woman recounts a dream: a bunch of men in the room are
talking politics; she tells them this is really all about throwing a
cow off a cliff, that men abuse women. A man says that women have all
the power, another (Larry Block) agrees. A group discusses the
relationships of men and women. John suggests he may kill himself.
(This is the group therapy by phone session originally in 'When I'm
calling you'.)
18:20: Jack Kornfield recounts the story of Groucho Marx and
the woman with 22 children ('I love my cigar...' - this comes from
Groucho's game show, 'You bet your life',
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Bet_Your_Life) to introduce talking
about wanting.
20:50: Joe tells of working for a used-car dealer in DC,
buying a used car; a week later he finds it's stolen. Joe confronts
the guy (Brooks) who sold him the car; the police aren't interested.
Joe chases him in his boss's Audi; they take US route 50 into Prince
George's county (Maryland). Brooks exits, stops. He and Joe fight,
then laugh and make friends. (originally in 'Green Cadillac')
30:20: Jack Kornfield tells of the guy who wandered the world
looking for happiness, failed, gave up, stopped to rest under
kalpataru, the 'great wish-fulfilling tree'
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalpavriksha), which grants all his
wishes.
33:50: A guy with a Russian accent (Milio Brodski) lives in
San Francisco. His friend Slava calls from New York; Slava's mother
is dying of cancer, wants guy to come keep him company, so he flies to
NYC. The mother set up a business to restore books for the public
library. She hired Slava, who ran the business into the ground. She
dies before the guy arrives. The guy arranges the funeral - Slava
said he couldn't. Slava wants it cheap. The discount rabbi mixes her
eulogy up with others'. Slava dies from an overdose a year later.
44:20: Kornfield recalls coming back from the monastery the
first time, his first girlfriend. He can't express a preference,
which drives her crazy.
46:20: Schindler says you don't have to lie (and that he's 64.
He was born in 1925.) A woman is interviewing him. She asks him
about lying. He says faithfulness is an illusion. He claims the
greatest thing is losing all sexual energy.
49:20: Kornfield tells us that the more attention we pay, the
more we realize our one-ness with nature, that the idea that we are
separate individuals is a delusion. He says that grasping causes
suffering. He says that Suzuki roshi
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._T._Suzuki) summed up the teaching of
Zen with 'Not always so'.
54:10: Schindler tells a story from ancient Greece, 4th-5th
century BCE: you got a 4-week vacation; you wrote an admission
'ticket' on which you listed all your sorrows. You handed over your
ticket then got to do anything you wanted: sex, orgies, dancing,
music, feasts... When you leave you get your neighbor's 'ticket'. (I
don't recognize this story, don't find Milton Schindler a reliable
source.)
http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Zen
From russellbell at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 05:01:49 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 06:01:49 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Zen'
Message-ID: <202103161201.12GC1ns6010161@randytool.net>
Milton Schindler tells of working in Vernon (a small town in
Los Angeles county) in 1959. He was seeing a psychiatrist for his
difficulties (unnamed). For 5 or 6 months he flew to Las Vegas on
Friday nights to gamble. He won in the beginning. (He was with his
friend Frank DiSalvo and his wife.) He stopped seeing the
psychiatrist and went to Vegas instead. He claims he won tens of
thousands the first 8-9 months - then he lost big, kited checks, got
$80-100K in debt. A big fire destroyed his business (making picture
tubes). Thugs from one of the casinos threatened him. He never paid
them back, never went back to Vegas.
7:10: A woman recounts a dream: a bunch of men in the room are
talking politics; she tells them this is really all about throwing a
cow off a cliff, that men abuse women. A man says that women have all
the power, another (Larry Block) agrees. A group discusses the
relationships of men and women. John suggests he may kill himself.
(This is the group therapy by phone session originally in 'When I'm
calling you'.)
18:20: Jack Kornfield recounts the story of Groucho Marx and
the woman with 22 children ('I love my cigar...' - this comes from
Groucho's game show, 'You bet your life',
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Bet_Your_Life) to introduce talking
about wanting.
20:50: Joe tells of working for a used-car dealer in DC,
buying a used car; a week later he finds it's stolen. Joe confronts
the guy (Brooks) who sold him the car; the police aren't interested.
Joe chases him in his boss's Audi; they take US route 50 into Prince
George's county (Maryland). Brooks exits, stops. He and Joe fight,
then laugh and make friends. (originally in 'Green Cadillac')
30:20: Jack Kornfield tells of the guy who wandered the world
looking for happiness, failed, gave up, stopped to rest under
kalpataru, the 'great wish-fulfilling tree'
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalpavriksha), which grants all his
wishes.
33:50: A guy with a Russian accent (Milio Brodski) lives in
San Francisco. His friend Slava calls from New York; Slava's mother
is dying of cancer, wants guy to come keep him company, so he flies to
NYC. The mother set up a business to restore books for the public
library. She hired Slava, who ran the business into the ground. She
dies before the guy arrives. The guy arranges the funeral - Slava
said he couldn't. Slava wants it cheap. The discount rabbi mixes her
eulogy up with others'. Slava dies from an overdose a year later.
44:20: Kornfield recalls coming back from the monastery the
first time, his first girlfriend. He can't express a preference,
which drives her crazy.
46:20: Schindler says you don't have to lie (and that he's 64.
He was born in 1925.) A woman is interviewing him. She asks him
about lying. He says faithfulness is an illusion. He claims the
greatest thing is losing all sexual energy.
49:20: Kornfield tells us that the more attention we pay, the
more we realize our one-ness with nature, that the idea that we are
separate individuals is a delusion. He says that grasping causes
suffering. He says that Suzuki roshi
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._T._Suzuki) summed up the teaching of
Zen with 'Not always so'.
54:10: Schindler tells a story from ancient Greece, 4th-5th
century BCE: you got a 4-week vacation; you wrote an admission
'ticket' on which you listed all your sorrows. You handed over your
ticket then got to do anything you wanted: sex, orgies, dancing,
music, feasts... When you leave you get your neighbor's 'ticket'. (I
don't recognize this story, don't find Milton Schindler a reliable
source.)
http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Zen
From ramon at jfwiki.org Tue Mar 23 16:32:48 2021
From: ramon at jfwiki.org (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n?=)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 19:32:48 -0400
Subject: [joe-frank-list] New jfwiki music page
Message-ID: <53987d8ad9f05a95d7ae6289767e1389@jfwiki.org>
Frankophiles,
Over the past few months we have completed cataloging (nearly) every
song Joe used in his shows. There are some tracks we don't know, but
only a handful. (If you know what https://jfwiki.org/splash.mp3 is let
me know!) Most of the remaining unidentified music is drones or synth
pads that were likely produced in-house.
The result of this endeavor is a new JF Music Page:
https://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Joe_Frank_Music_Page
Thanks to Russell Bell, Rob Stanzel, Richard Looney, Beau Gunderson,
Dan Abrams, and a bunch of other contributors to the wiki and the
various JF music pages over the years. We used data from many sources.
I've added a link that will generate a 10 track YouTube playlist
featuring music Joe used in his shows, or you can bookmark:
https://jfwiki.org/rmusic.php
There is also a "Random Show" link that might help you decide which
episode to listen to:
https://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:RandomInCategory/Show
Russell has also been adding his wonderfully detailed synopses to
episode pages, so your chances of finding the episode you are looking
for are increasing each day.
If you have any data, corrections, or commentary you'd like to add to
the wiki please shoot me an email and I'd be delighted to create an
account for you.
To those of you in the Northern Hemisphere, Happy Spring!
Happy Autumn to everyone else!
Ram?n
From russellbell at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 07:43:22 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 08:43:22 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Why I don't love you anymore'
Message-ID: <202103241443.12OEhMJi029214@randytool.net>
Joe complains about people who befoul public toilets, imagines
punishing them, then people who play their records too loud, those
with boomboxes, the mess in subway platforms, movie theatres,
panhandlers.
10: Joe tells of going to the Childe Harold (a tavern in DC -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/06/AR2007110602370_pf.html
) with his friend Mike (Mike Fremuth -
http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Mike_Fremuth). They pick up a young
dancer, Rachel, go to Joe's apartment. Mike gets handsy with Rachel,
starts taking off her clothes despite her complaints, while Joe plays
the piano; Joe breaks it up, sends Rachel home.
13:30: Joe talks about freedom, that we imagine ourselves free
but, in practice, are enslaved by jobs, family, social expectations...
18:10: Joe tells us about Dave. He's writing 'How to identify
a roadkill'. He printed up bumper stickers that look like DC's
license plate but bear the legend, 'Washington DC: we be a capitol
city', (in 1986 the real plate bore the legend, 'Washington DC: a
capitol city'). He works as a courier.
22:30: After work Dave drives to the 'Goldrush', DC's last
strip club. The dancers work for money, but Dave never pays; somehow
he gets others to pay for his drinks. Dave's taking notes for a novel
about it. He's going to run for mayor. He comes from a large redneck
family. ('Redneck Rounder''s?)
27:40: Dave shows up at Joe's apartment drunk and tearful: he
says he's cracking up. Joe tries to comfort him.
30:40: Joe tells of working in a gas station in a desert. One
night a fellow arrived, driving backwards, who had driven hundreds of
miles that way because his headlights were broken; another fellow
arrived driving on 2 tires, not having had the time to replace them.
The 2 men got into a fight.
32:20: The next day a man with a car full of beavers (he bred
them) arrived; most of they were dead.
32:40: 'A while ago' a young couple with a child argue about
which is the better parent, leave without the boy, who wanders off
into the desert without his shoes.
33:30: Joe got a letter from his wife (Kathleen), who used to
live with him at the gas station, had left 12 years ago. Despite the
decline in business because the new freeway bypassed him, Joe stays,
confident she will return.
34:40: A bus-full of mutes arrived late in the summer. They
passed notes to each other.
35:40: One November a few years ago a nervous man stayed all
day and night. He seemed to age 15 years overnight. Joe called the
hospital, which took him.
37: The area has suffered a number of natural disasters, but
all have bypassed Joe's gas station. Joe met a man in a sand funnel
who looked like him, had similar stories; the next day Joe wondered if
it hadn't been a dream. (Ray from 'In the middle of nowhere'?)
38:50: Joe sees a stretch limousine; he resents them, imagines
making their owners hurt, organizing a pie corps to pie them.
44:40: Joe wonders how to define quality of life; we hear the
sounds of writing on a chalkboard. He remembers a lecture by a
sociologist to his whole high school class about their life goals.
48:20: Joe speculates about the broke song-writer who writes a
hit song; now he has to deal with his success and fame, becomes
captive to living up to his image, a 24/7 job, which can end any
moment.
51: Joe speculates about an heir to a great fortune. He cites
the example of 'Billy Marx', son of a real-estate magnate who died
young from over-work. Billy is a 'gentleman' who wastes his time; his
sister imagines herself an artist, has affairs with artists, plays at
painting but never takes it seriously.
55:30: Joe says the unemployed poor have all the free time
they want; he observes that they live empty meaningless lives.
http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Why_I_Don't_Love_You_Anymore
russell bell
From delantony at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 13:05:07 2021
From: delantony at gmail.com (Tony DeLio)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 14:05:07 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] Episode with female actor
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Does anyone know which episode/ segment is where
it's one female (who is not familiar or a regular I don't think)
where she's describing a very intimate encounter?
It's very slow paced and sensual and after that I can't remember LOL.
Used to be one of my favorites,
can't find it or remember what it was called.
Thanks!
tony
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:44 AM <russellbell at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Joe complains about people who befoul public toilets, imagines
> punishing them, then people who play their records too loud, those
> with boomboxes, the mess in subway platforms, movie theatres,
> panhandlers.
> 10: Joe tells of going to the Childe Harold (a tavern in DC -
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/06/AR2007110602370_pf.html
> ) with his friend Mike (Mike Fremuth -
> http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Mike_Fremuth). They pick up a young
> dancer, Rachel, go to Joe's apartment. Mike gets handsy with Rachel,
> starts taking off her clothes despite her complaints, while Joe plays
> the piano; Joe breaks it up, sends Rachel home.
> 13:30: Joe talks about freedom, that we imagine ourselves free
> but, in practice, are enslaved by jobs, family, social expectations...
> 18:10: Joe tells us about Dave. He's writing 'How to identify
> a roadkill'. He printed up bumper stickers that look like DC's
> license plate but bear the legend, 'Washington DC: we be a capitol
> city', (in 1986 the real plate bore the legend, 'Washington DC: a
> capitol city'). He works as a courier.
> 22:30: After work Dave drives to the 'Goldrush', DC's last
> strip club. The dancers work for money, but Dave never pays; somehow
> he gets others to pay for his drinks. Dave's taking notes for a novel
> about it. He's going to run for mayor. He comes from a large redneck
> family. ('Redneck Rounder''s?)
> 27:40: Dave shows up at Joe's apartment drunk and tearful: he
> says he's cracking up. Joe tries to comfort him.
> 30:40: Joe tells of working in a gas station in a desert. One
> night a fellow arrived, driving backwards, who had driven hundreds of
> miles that way because his headlights were broken; another fellow
> arrived driving on 2 tires, not having had the time to replace them.
> The 2 men got into a fight.
> 32:20: The next day a man with a car full of beavers (he bred
> them) arrived; most of they were dead.
> 32:40: 'A while ago' a young couple with a child argue about
> which is the better parent, leave without the boy, who wanders off
> into the desert without his shoes.
> 33:30: Joe got a letter from his wife (Kathleen), who used to
> live with him at the gas station, had left 12 years ago. Despite the
> decline in business because the new freeway bypassed him, Joe stays,
> confident she will return.
> 34:40: A bus-full of mutes arrived late in the summer. They
> passed notes to each other.
> 35:40: One November a few years ago a nervous man stayed all
> day and night. He seemed to age 15 years overnight. Joe called the
> hospital, which took him.
> 37: The area has suffered a number of natural disasters, but
> all have bypassed Joe's gas station. Joe met a man in a sand funnel
> who looked like him, had similar stories; the next day Joe wondered if
> it hadn't been a dream. (Ray from 'In the middle of nowhere'?)
> 38:50: Joe sees a stretch limousine; he resents them, imagines
> making their owners hurt, organizing a pie corps to pie them.
> 44:40: Joe wonders how to define quality of life; we hear the
> sounds of writing on a chalkboard. He remembers a lecture by a
> sociologist to his whole high school class about their life goals.
> 48:20: Joe speculates about the broke song-writer who writes a
> hit song; now he has to deal with his success and fame, becomes
> captive to living up to his image, a 24/7 job, which can end any
> moment.
> 51: Joe speculates about an heir to a great fortune. He cites
> the example of 'Billy Marx', son of a real-estate magnate who died
> young from over-work. Billy is a 'gentleman' who wastes his time; his
> sister imagines herself an artist, has affairs with artists, plays at
> painting but never takes it seriously.
> 55:30: Joe says the unemployed poor have all the free time
> they want; he observes that they live empty meaningless lives.
>
> http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Why_I_Don't_Love_You_Anymore
>
> russell bell
> _______________________________________________
> Joe Frank Mailing List
> joe-frank-list at armory.com
> http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list
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From: ramon at jfwiki.org (Ramon)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:13:25 -0400
Subject: [joe-frank-list] Episode with female actor
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Try out The More I Know You.
There's another one where a young woman talks about meeting a couple in the
grocery store who are preparing large hams. She and her friend go over and
have some kind of post-ham foursome. I can't pinpoint the episode though.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 4:06 PM Tony DeLio <delantony at gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know which episode/ segment is where
> it's one female (who is not familiar or a regular I don't think)
> where she's describing a very intimate encounter?
> It's very slow paced and sensual and after that I can't remember LOL.
>
> Used to be one of my favorites,
> can't find it or remember what it was called.
> Thanks!
> tony
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:44 AM <russellbell at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Joe complains about people who befoul public toilets, imagines
>> punishing them, then people who play their records too loud, those
>> with boomboxes, the mess in subway platforms, movie theatres,
>> panhandlers.
>> 10: Joe tells of going to the Childe Harold (a tavern in DC -
>>
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/06/AR2007110602370_pf.html
>> ) with his friend Mike (Mike Fremuth -
>> http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Mike_Fremuth). They pick up a young
>> dancer, Rachel, go to Joe's apartment. Mike gets handsy with Rachel,
>> starts taking off her clothes despite her complaints, while Joe plays
>> the piano; Joe breaks it up, sends Rachel home.
>> 13:30: Joe talks about freedom, that we imagine ourselves free
>> but, in practice, are enslaved by jobs, family, social expectations...
>> 18:10: Joe tells us about Dave. He's writing 'How to identify
>> a roadkill'. He printed up bumper stickers that look like DC's
>> license plate but bear the legend, 'Washington DC: we be a capitol
>> city', (in 1986 the real plate bore the legend, 'Washington DC: a
>> capitol city'). He works as a courier.
>> 22:30: After work Dave drives to the 'Goldrush', DC's last
>> strip club. The dancers work for money, but Dave never pays; somehow
>> he gets others to pay for his drinks. Dave's taking notes for a novel
>> about it. He's going to run for mayor. He comes from a large redneck
>> family. ('Redneck Rounder''s?)
>> 27:40: Dave shows up at Joe's apartment drunk and tearful: he
>> says he's cracking up. Joe tries to comfort him.
>> 30:40: Joe tells of working in a gas station in a desert. One
>> night a fellow arrived, driving backwards, who had driven hundreds of
>> miles that way because his headlights were broken; another fellow
>> arrived driving on 2 tires, not having had the time to replace them.
>> The 2 men got into a fight.
>> 32:20: The next day a man with a car full of beavers (he bred
>> them) arrived; most of they were dead.
>> 32:40: 'A while ago' a young couple with a child argue about
>> which is the better parent, leave without the boy, who wanders off
>> into the desert without his shoes.
>> 33:30: Joe got a letter from his wife (Kathleen), who used to
>> live with him at the gas station, had left 12 years ago. Despite the
>> decline in business because the new freeway bypassed him, Joe stays,
>> confident she will return.
>> 34:40: A bus-full of mutes arrived late in the summer. They
>> passed notes to each other.
>> 35:40: One November a few years ago a nervous man stayed all
>> day and night. He seemed to age 15 years overnight. Joe called the
>> hospital, which took him.
>> 37: The area has suffered a number of natural disasters, but
>> all have bypassed Joe's gas station. Joe met a man in a sand funnel
>> who looked like him, had similar stories; the next day Joe wondered if
>> it hadn't been a dream. (Ray from 'In the middle of nowhere'?)
>> 38:50: Joe sees a stretch limousine; he resents them, imagines
>> making their owners hurt, organizing a pie corps to pie them.
>> 44:40: Joe wonders how to define quality of life; we hear the
>> sounds of writing on a chalkboard. He remembers a lecture by a
>> sociologist to his whole high school class about their life goals.
>> 48:20: Joe speculates about the broke song-writer who writes a
>> hit song; now he has to deal with his success and fame, becomes
>> captive to living up to his image, a 24/7 job, which can end any
>> moment.
>> 51: Joe speculates about an heir to a great fortune. He cites
>> the example of 'Billy Marx', son of a real-estate magnate who died
>> young from over-work. Billy is a 'gentleman' who wastes his time; his
>> sister imagines herself an artist, has affairs with artists, plays at
>> painting but never takes it seriously.
>> 55:30: Joe says the unemployed poor have all the free time
>> they want; he observes that they live empty meaningless lives.
>>
>> http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Why_I_Don't_Love_You_Anymore
>>
>> russell bell
>> _______________________________________________
>> Joe Frank Mailing List
>> joe-frank-list at armory.com
>> http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> joe-frank-list at armory.com
> http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list
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From: delantony at gmail.com (Tony DeLio)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 22:43:08 -0600
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Outstanding thank you I will try that!!
Much obliged,
tony
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 5:14 PM Ramon <ramon at jfwiki.org> wrote:
> Try out The More I Know You.
>
> There's another one where a young woman talks about meeting a couple in
> the grocery store who are preparing large hams. She and her friend go over
> and have some kind of post-ham foursome. I can't pinpoint the episode
> though.
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 4:06 PM Tony DeLio <delantony at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know which episode/ segment is where
>> it's one female (who is not familiar or a regular I don't think)
>> where she's describing a very intimate encounter?
>> It's very slow paced and sensual and after that I can't remember LOL.
>>
>> Used to be one of my favorites,
>> can't find it or remember what it was called.
>> Thanks!
>> tony
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:44 AM <russellbell at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Joe complains about people who befoul public toilets, imagines
>>> punishing them, then people who play their records too loud, those
>>> with boomboxes, the mess in subway platforms, movie theatres,
>>> panhandlers.
>>> 10: Joe tells of going to the Childe Harold (a tavern in DC -
>>>
>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/06/AR2007110602370_pf.html
>>> ) with his friend Mike (Mike Fremuth -
>>> http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Mike_Fremuth). They pick up a young
>>> dancer, Rachel, go to Joe's apartment. Mike gets handsy with Rachel,
>>> starts taking off her clothes despite her complaints, while Joe plays
>>> the piano; Joe breaks it up, sends Rachel home.
>>> 13:30: Joe talks about freedom, that we imagine ourselves free
>>> but, in practice, are enslaved by jobs, family, social expectations...
>>> 18:10: Joe tells us about Dave. He's writing 'How to identify
>>> a roadkill'. He printed up bumper stickers that look like DC's
>>> license plate but bear the legend, 'Washington DC: we be a capitol
>>> city', (in 1986 the real plate bore the legend, 'Washington DC: a
>>> capitol city'). He works as a courier.
>>> 22:30: After work Dave drives to the 'Goldrush', DC's last
>>> strip club. The dancers work for money, but Dave never pays; somehow
>>> he gets others to pay for his drinks. Dave's taking notes for a novel
>>> about it. He's going to run for mayor. He comes from a large redneck
>>> family. ('Redneck Rounder''s?)
>>> 27:40: Dave shows up at Joe's apartment drunk and tearful: he
>>> says he's cracking up. Joe tries to comfort him.
>>> 30:40: Joe tells of working in a gas station in a desert. One
>>> night a fellow arrived, driving backwards, who had driven hundreds of
>>> miles that way because his headlights were broken; another fellow
>>> arrived driving on 2 tires, not having had the time to replace them.
>>> The 2 men got into a fight.
>>> 32:20: The next day a man with a car full of beavers (he bred
>>> them) arrived; most of they were dead.
>>> 32:40: 'A while ago' a young couple with a child argue about
>>> which is the better parent, leave without the boy, who wanders off
>>> into the desert without his shoes.
>>> 33:30: Joe got a letter from his wife (Kathleen), who used to
>>> live with him at the gas station, had left 12 years ago. Despite the
>>> decline in business because the new freeway bypassed him, Joe stays,
>>> confident she will return.
>>> 34:40: A bus-full of mutes arrived late in the summer. They
>>> passed notes to each other.
>>> 35:40: One November a few years ago a nervous man stayed all
>>> day and night. He seemed to age 15 years overnight. Joe called the
>>> hospital, which took him.
>>> 37: The area has suffered a number of natural disasters, but
>>> all have bypassed Joe's gas station. Joe met a man in a sand funnel
>>> who looked like him, had similar stories; the next day Joe wondered if
>>> it hadn't been a dream. (Ray from 'In the middle of nowhere'?)
>>> 38:50: Joe sees a stretch limousine; he resents them, imagines
>>> making their owners hurt, organizing a pie corps to pie them.
>>> 44:40: Joe wonders how to define quality of life; we hear the
>>> sounds of writing on a chalkboard. He remembers a lecture by a
>>> sociologist to his whole high school class about their life goals.
>>> 48:20: Joe speculates about the broke song-writer who writes a
>>> hit song; now he has to deal with his success and fame, becomes
>>> captive to living up to his image, a 24/7 job, which can end any
>>> moment.
>>> 51: Joe speculates about an heir to a great fortune. He cites
>>> the example of 'Billy Marx', son of a real-estate magnate who died
>>> young from over-work. Billy is a 'gentleman' who wastes his time; his
>>> sister imagines herself an artist, has affairs with artists, plays at
>>> painting but never takes it seriously.
>>> 55:30: Joe says the unemployed poor have all the free time
>>> they want; he observes that they live empty meaningless lives.
>>>
>>> http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Why_I_Don't_Love_You_Anymore
>>>
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From russellbell at gmail.com Thu Mar 25 03:21:25 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 04:21:25 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] the show with the orgy
Message-ID: <202103251021.12PALPRe003812@randytool.net>
Asked Tony DeLio: 'Does anyone know which episode/ segment is
where it's one female (who is not familiar or a regular I don't think)
where she's describing a very intimate encounter?'
Try 'The end', about 14:10
http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=The_End
russell bell