From russellbell at gmail.com Thu Jul 1 04:17:59 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 05:17:59 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Lies' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107011117.161BHxXF008920@randytool.net>
The Joe Frank channel has uploaded it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIG636ri4r8
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Fri Jul 2 05:53:45 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 06:53:45 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Eye in the sky' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107021253.162Crjc9019571@randytool.net>
The Joe Frank channel has uploaded it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RyHef8AAzs
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Sat Jul 3 06:03:46 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 07:03:46 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Islands' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107031303.163D3kfm001735@randytool.net>
The Joe Frank channel has uploaded it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIhZuc6gYkM
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Sun Jul 4 06:19:53 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 07:19:53 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Pilot' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107041319.164DJrNd021808@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' uploaded it last week:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA7VB05gmyc
You can read a synopsis and other information at
http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Pilot
russell bell
From christaylor415 at gmail.com Sun Jul 4 10:52:54 2021
From: christaylor415 at gmail.com (Chris Taylor)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 10:52:54 -0700
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Pilot' on YouTube
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References: <202107041319.164DJrNd021808@randytool.net>
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As someone curious about the legacy of this show , have the uploads already
been discussed (as they?ve been previously unavailable for free online) ?
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 6:24 AM <russellbell at gmail.com> wrote:
> 'Joe Frank Forever' uploaded it last week:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA7VB05gmyc
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> You can read a synopsis and other information at
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> http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Pilot
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> russell bell
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From russellbell at gmail.com Mon Jul 5 04:50:41 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 05:50:41 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] uploads by Joe Frank Forever: have we discussed
them?
Message-ID: <202107051150.165Boftb005305@randytool.net>
Asked Chris Taylor, 'As someone curious about the legacy of
this show , have the uploads already been discussed (as they've been
previously unavailable for free online) ?'
You can look in the forum archives,
http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list , if you've only just
subscribed. I'd say not much, but my standard isn't everyone's.
I mention them in case someone has missed them; if they spark
a discussion, so much the better. I suspect most participants have
copies already; free access is a way for us to recommend to the newly
curious.
Want to start a discussion?
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Tue Jul 6 04:59:20 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 05:59:20 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'WFMU fund drive, 2005' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107061159.166BxK96023776@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' uploaded it recently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhnQQoljVQw
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Wed Jul 7 04:55:38 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 05:55:38 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Warheads' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107071155.167BtcZf025028@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' has uploaded it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eihoiUXf-ak
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Thu Jul 8 04:10:45 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 05:10:45 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Green Cadillac' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107081110.168BAjG9001989@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' has uploaded it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= CJoDMaxD4w8
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Fri Jul 9 06:08:06 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 07:08:06 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'A death in the family'
Message-ID: <202107091308.169D863k008165@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' has uploaded it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7bwS_OOar4
There was an inadvertent space in 'Green Cadillac's' URI
yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoDMaxD4w8
is correct.
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Sat Jul 10 08:52:34 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 09:52:34 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Hawaii' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107101552.16AFqYJY002355@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' has uploaded it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u19YHc66di4
It's 46 minutes long, the last 20 or so minutes blank screen.
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Sun Jul 11 06:46:52 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 07:46:52 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Soul mate (remix)' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107111346.16BDkq2n025503@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' has uploaded it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2tTp4-2W8c
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Mon Jul 12 04:15:01 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 05:15:01 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Don't Know Mind' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107121115.16CBF1sJ017138@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' has uploaded it Saturday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgnhaS5ZaPk
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Tue Jul 13 04:43:18 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 05:43:18 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Live on WBAI' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107131143.16DBhIbS031121@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' has uploaded it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcgOt_Bd8p4
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Wed Jul 14 04:55:56 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 05:55:56 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Live at Largo' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107141155.16EBtuQm003574@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' has uploaded it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qkKFWkCHRc
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Thu Jul 15 04:24:15 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 05:24:15 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'The Poor are Always with Us' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107151124.16FBOFRP023741@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' has uploaded it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3CGnh7AwEc
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Fri Jul 16 04:39:48 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 05:39:48 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Dreamland: A compilation:' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107161139.16GBdmZR005432@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' has uploaded it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1_Z0pquUJw
Information at the Joe Frank Wiki:
http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Dreamland:_A_Compilation
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Sat Jul 17 08:21:43 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 09:21:43 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Downfall' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107171521.16HFLhIX003052@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' has uploaded it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr8SKS1y0cE
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 07:30:37 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 08:30:37 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Night'
Message-ID: <202107181430.16IEUbIt007916@randytool.net>
joefrank.com has only 'Night'. It was originally 2 parts. Is
the 'Night' in distribution now an edited-down version of the
original?
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Mon Jul 19 05:52:36 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 06:52:36 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Anthology of Love (Remix)' on YouTube
Message-ID: <202107191252.16JCqakq002236@randytool.net>
'Joe Frank Forever' uploaded it Saturday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxosyyZ2hM4
More information at the Joe Frank Wiki:
https://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Anthology_Of_Love_(Remix)
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 06:20:25 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 07:20:25 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Night, Part 1'
Message-ID: <202107201320.16KDKPUl009013@randytool.net>
Kevin cleans and maintains pools with Dave, the boss, who
listens to weather radio and surf reports while Kevin works.
3:40: Joe says that cataclysm isn't remote, describes the
danger of earthquakes, fires, floods, storms from the sea.
5:00: Joe tells of the aftermath of the flooding of Marble
Creek. (It sounds like Malibu to me, but I don't know of a Marble
Creek there.)
5:50: Joe tells of burglaries in the neighborhood, that they
seem to be done by neighbors, possibly because people are living
beyond their means.
7:40: Kevin drives a Toyota Landcruiser with a rollbar. He's
a fast driver, has driven drunk and stoned, rolled a previous truck.
10: Kevin works at the Marble Inn (can't find evidence of this
place) on the weekends. He plays darts in the back for money after
hours. He snorts cocaine when it shows up. One night a man is shot
in the parking lot. Kevin encounters the man who shot him, drives him
off. The guy drops his gun while running away. Kevin picks it up,
notes that a gun not registered or connected to him could be useful
some day. (Apparently the man who dropped it was Anton Chekhov.)
13:10: Saturday morning Kevin grinds meat for burgers,
prepares the other ingredients.
14: One night after work he sees sheriff's deputies chase a
speeder in a Jaguar. The Jaguar crashes into a bench. The deputies
shoot him a dozen times.
15:50: One night the Inn catches on fire from the fat in the
burger meat, burns to the ground.
16:20: Kevin's father, a pilot with Pacific Airlines
(fictional - the airline of this name is Vietnamese, started in 1991),
gets him a job as a line technician at the airport. (Some of this
story sounds like Hollywood Burbank airport, some like Van Nuys
airport. The cities of Burbank, Glendale, and Pasadena own the
former. It's mostly commercial traffic. The private traffic Joe
describes sounds like Van Nuys airport, but it's even less likely to
have military planes. It would have that little Beechcraft Joe says
NASA has there. I think Joe conflated the 2 for dramatic purposes.)
Kevin likes the job, the action that happens, including the C-5 and
SR-71. (I think this is a mistake: the SR-71 flies out of
Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton; I don't think the runway at Burbank is
long enough for it, and the security certainly isn't high enough.
Lockheed built it and they're based in Burbank, and used to operate
the Hollywood Burbank airport, but that's all coincidental. A C-5
could land and take off on Burbank's longest runway, but I don't know
why it would.)
20:20: Kevin crashes the airport's station wagon, keeps his
job anyway.
22:20: Kevin explores a DC-3 with luxurious appointments,
including a waterbed; it had a collection of porn videos.
23:20: A nearby strip club, the Fabian, has a pictures night,
popular with horny old men. Kevin attends, but doesn't take pictures.
The club also has peep shows.
25:10: Joe describes a brothel, the Circus of Love, on La
Cienega. Kevin gets a sauna and a massage, passes on the sex. He
sees the same woman week after week; eventually, they talk. Her name
is Donna.
26:30: Donna was born in Springfield, Ohio. She was a sickly
child. Her father owned a bookstore. Her sister is 9 years older.
Her father is cruel. Racing down a hill on the back of a bicycle, her
sister tells her to stick her foot in the wheel; she does, breaks it;
her father does nothing for her. The man who lent her father the
money to open the bookstore takes Donna to a physician. (Joe mentions
the Maryland Hotel in Chicago on Rush Street, which is real.)
She gets pregnant, marries Jim. Jim beats her late in the
pregnancy, damaging the baby, which dies after a few weeks. She
divorces Jim, works at a mobile home manufacturer. She takes a job
emceeing a drag show. She learns how to be a woman from them. Her
boss at the manufacturer attacks her on a business trip; she files a
complaint, but they do nothing, so she quits and takes a job at a TV
factory.
Donna's father passes out while driving; the accident kills
her mother.
36:20: A famous stripper, Pearl, comes to the club, takes a
shine to Donna, hires her as her assistant. Their first gig is at the
Silver Slipper in Washington. (I don't remember it, can't find a
reference to it.) They become lovers. The next club is lacking one
of its dancers, so Donna fills in. The crowd boos her for her small
breasts; she sasses them back, which impresses the owner. A group of
old men form a fan club for her.
40: Pearl gives Donna a silicone treatment to enlarge her
breasts for her birthday. A few years later they go bad; it turns out
that it was industrial silicone; she gets a mastectomy. She leaves
Pearl, creates a fresh act. Porn films drive down the prices
strippers can get; the clubs are dirty and roach-filled.
43;10: A guy gets shot next to her at the bar of a club she's
working. The bartender drags the body behind the bar, tells the cops
he knows nothing, then throws the body in the alley after they leave.
46: Turner joins the Army as a buck private, rises to become a
pilot, is a captain when he goes to Vietnam. He flies Birddogs
(Cessna O-1, a small single-engine prop plane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_O-1_Bird_Dog) to spot the enemy,
particularly to help artillery aim at them.
49:20: After discharge, Turner visits an Army buddy in Red
Bank, New Jersey, who deals drugs. Turner sells a pound of marijuana
for him; they get busted. Turner gets 2 months in county jail. He
has to fight with a would-be rapist, Hinckins (sp?).
52:40: Turner gets out in March, drives to Sonora, California,
where his widowed mother lives. He moves to the Stanislaus river,
lives in a tent, shops in town every 2 weeks. He walks around the
forest, swims, gets to know the animals - communes with nature. After
6 months he rents a cabin and enrolls in Columbia junior college (now
Columbia community college), takes jobs as a bartender and dealing
cards. He sees all the players as losers. One, Hardy, sings 'Jesus
blood never failed me yet'. (Gavin Bryars, whose music Joe used in a
few shows, captured this from an actual homeless person. It's an
interesting story. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus%27_Blood_Never_Failed_Me_Yet)
http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Night_(Part_1)
JoeFrank.com identifies this show as 'Night',
http://www.joefrank.com/shop/night .
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Tue Jul 20 11:05:16 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 12:05:16 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] Silver Slipper
Message-ID: <202107201805.16KI5Gh9016978@randytool.net>
A friend who used to work for the 'Washington Post' turned up
this article, 'Bawdy Silver Slipper Slips Into History -- and
Folklore':
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1981/06/29/bawdy-silver-slipper-slips-into-history-and-folklore/e496ac90-50b8-4ad2-a1bf-bedddb75a426/
'81 was before Joe's arrival; he must have heard about it.
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 08:30:53 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 09:30:53 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Night'
Message-ID: <202107211530.16LFUrbb032334@randytool.net>
The scholars at the Joe Frank Wiki tell me that the show I
synopsized yesterday is 'Night' not 'Night part 1'. Every show I have
that has been identified by their sources to be 'Night part 1' has
been identical to 'Night', thus my mistake.
JoeFrank.com distributes 'Night' but not parts 1 or 2.
http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Night has the synopsis.
Has anyone heard part 1? It doesn't end with Hardy singing
'Jesus's blood never failed me yet', apparently.
I apologize for my mistake.
russell bell
From sebmb1 at verizon.net Wed Jul 21 10:48:24 2021
From: sebmb1 at verizon.net (Stephen E. Bacher)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 10:48:24 -0700
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Night'
In-Reply-To: <202107211530.16LFUrbb032334@randytool.net>
References: <202107211530.16LFUrbb032334@randytool.net>
Message-ID: <001101d77e58$9b434d60$d1c9e820$@verizon.net>
I have recordings of Night Part 1 and Night Part 2 (though there is a chunk missing from my copy of Night Part 2). The
"Jesus' blood never failed me yet" bit is in Night Part 2.
- seb
> -----Original Message-----
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> russellbell at gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 8:31 AM
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> Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Night'
>
>
> The scholars at the Joe Frank Wiki tell me that the show I
> synopsized yesterday is 'Night' not 'Night part 1'. Every show I have
> that has been identified by their sources to be 'Night part 1' has
> been identical to 'Night', thus my mistake.
> JoeFrank.com distributes 'Night' but not parts 1 or 2.
>
> http://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Night has the synopsis.
>
> Has anyone heard part 1? It doesn't end with Hardy singing
> 'Jesus's blood never failed me yet', apparently.
>
> I apologize for my mistake.
>
> russell bell
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From russellbell at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 04:26:02 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 05:26:02 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Night'; Marble Creek; Van Nuys airport
Message-ID: <202107221126.16MBQ2sL005155@randytool.net>
Quoth Stephen E. Bacher:
'I have recordings of Night Part 1 and Night Part 2 (though
there is a chunk missing from my copy of Night Part 2). The "Jesus'
blood never failed me yet" bit is in Night Part 2.'
Thanks. How long is part 1? How does it end? What are the
last words spoken? Can you think of anything in it that isn't in
'Night'?
A friend who lives in the area wrote, 'I know of plenty of
nice hikes in and around Malibu, but I don't know of any Marble Creek
in SoCal.' 'Malibu Creek -- might that be what you're looking for?'
Could be: it floods, burns, shakes, suffers from ocean storms,
and has many of the same letters in it as does 'Marble'. The other
canyons in the area: Topanga, Temescal, also do. Malibu Beach Inn and
Malibu Country Inn don't match Joe's description of the Marble Inn.
I mentioned Van Nuys Airport in my synopsis of 'Night'. I
have heard that it is the busiest general aviation airport in the US.
Its website reads, 'ranks as one of the world's busiest general
aviation airports'
(https://www.iflyvny.com/news-and-facts/general-description). Joe
mentioned the CEO of Western Airlines flying in to make a deal for a
loan to save it from bankruptcy on the tarmac, then flying out -
that's the kind of traffic I read happens at Van Nuys. There's no
airline traffic, thus private pilots don't have to defer to them as
they would at Hollywood Burbank.
russell bell
From sebmb1 at verizon.net Thu Jul 22 10:31:14 2021
From: sebmb1 at verizon.net (Stephen E. Bacher)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 10:31:14 -0700
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Night'; Marble Creek; Van Nuys airport
In-Reply-To: <202107221126.16MBQ2sL005155@randytool.net>
References: <202107221126.16MBQ2sL005155@randytool.net>
Message-ID: <001901d77f1f$5f2cbc40$1d8634c0$@verizon.net>
> Quoth Stephen E. Bacher:
>
> 'I have recordings of Night Part 1 and Night Part 2 (though
> there is a chunk missing from my copy of Night Part 2). The "Jesus'
> blood never failed me yet" bit is in Night Part 2.'
> Thanks. How long is part 1? How does it end? What are the
> last words spoken? Can you think of anything in it that isn't in
> 'Night'?
Part 1 (like Part 2) is an hour long, originally broadcast on "Work in Progress." I expect Russell to provide more
details about the content presently.
- seb
From russellbell at gmail.com Fri Jul 23 09:35:08 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 10:35:08 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] Joe's monologue about the futility of cleaning
Message-ID: <202107231635.16NGZ8tW007147@randytool.net>
Asked Yuriy Bash, 'do you remember which episode has the
monologue about the endless amount of dishes one has to clean in one's
house, entropy, etc? I can't recall it...'
'He hesitated' https://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=He_Hesitated
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Sat Jul 24 05:01:43 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 06:01:43 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Let me not dream'
Message-ID: <202107241201.16OC1h7n009728@randytool.net>
A hypnotist, a woman, instructs the listener to relax, think
his/her limbs limp.
1:50: Joe says he feels empty, helpless, despairing. He's
afraid to sleep, begs god not to let him dream again of 'the woman and
the stallion in the paint factory' (He titled a later show, 'Woman and
bull in paint factory'.) He says he must put something together to
make tonight's show, odds and ends from the past if necessary.
3:10: A man calls an older woman, asks for Coco. He
identifies himself as Joe Frank. Coco isn't in. (I think the caller
is Lester Nafzger, am not sure. It isn't Joe.)
4:20: A man (Arthur Miller?) sings 'Make love to me' (a pop
song written in 1954
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_Love_to_Me_(1954_song) - not to be
confused with the 1942 song of the same name; song titles aren't
copyrightable) accompanied by ukulele(?).
6:30: A man and woman yell, as though threatened (it's
indistinct). There are sounds that could be a monster, could be
alarms. It sounds like a movie.
7:30: A street preacher tells people they need spiritual
change, not political change; the crowd jeers him.
10:10: The director of River Valley camp (Arthur Miller?), a
sadistic summer camp for boys in the Brazilian Amazon, describes the
camp to Joe while showing slides. It's protected by a long stretch of
barren land, then 'electronic' barbed wire, and a 200-foot gate. The
rifle, archery, and blow-gun ranges use the boys as targets. He calls
pain 'deeper understanding'.
16:40: A street preacher enjoins his listeners to chant, 'Hare
Krishna'. The River Valley director's voice can be made out in the
background.
18:10: The River Valley director shows slides of 'fun night' -
Joe observes that they don't seem to be having fun. Staff get to
experiment on the campers.
20:50: Congregation finishes singing a hymn, a preacher talks,
then they sing another hymn. The River Valley director's voice can be
made out in the background.
21:40: The director describes visitors' day, during which the
parents can't see the children and vice-versa. Letters between
campers and parents are disposed of.
26:10: A man calls an older woman, asks for Coco. He
identifies himself as Joe Frank. Coco isn't in. She's in England.
27:20: A man (Arthur Miller?) sings 'There'll never be another
you' (a pop song written in 1942
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Will_Never_Be_Another_You )
accompanied by ukulele(?).
28:40: A man and woman yell, as though threatened (it's
indistinct). There are sounds that could be a monster, could be
alarms.
29:30: A preacher tells us how terrible things are, that god's
coming back. (It sounds like a TV preacher.)
32:40: Joe prays that his body may breathe, that he not mock
himself, that he not dream of the stallion and the woman in the paint
factory...
34:00: Joe calls Patty; she's an actor in a show, a Hungarian
comedy. Joe sings 'I remember you' (a 1941 pop song
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Remember_You_(1941_song) ) accompanied
by a karaoke recording to her.
37:30: Joe calls Alison (she's been sick), sings 'I remember
you' to her.
41:10: Joe calls a rabbi who talks about facing the challenges
of life. Joe asks him how to reconcile the Holocaust with a god he
would worship. The rabbi tells him a story from Meyer Levin's novel
'Fanatic' of a Jew praying at the death camp.
45:50: 'I was born in South Dakota at the age of 4...' A man
(Lester Nafzger?) recounts impossible and conflicting versions of his
life, some involving Mt Rushmore.
48:30: The Christian street preacher is back, talking with the
crowd.
53:10: Joe calls Amy (she's sleepy), sings 'I remember you' to
her. Joe tells her it was just for her. She tells him that's sweet.
https://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Let_Me_Not_Dream
I'm pretty sure the director of River Valley camp is Arthur
Miller. I'm less sure he sings the 2 pop songs; jfwiki attributes
them to Joe, but I disagree, cite the amateur ukulele accompaniment as
additional evidence for Mr Miller.
I'm less sure about Lester Nafzger calling for Coco and the
guy with the impossible life at 45:50.
The hypnotist sounds like a stock recording. The street
preachers sound real. The church service sounds real, perhaps
recorded off TV, as I think the preacher in 29:30 is, the horror movie
too.
Joe re-used much of it in 'Woman and bull in paint factory'.
(Is bull a joke or did he forget?)
I'm ready to believe that Joe was desperate, slapped together
odds and ends to make this show.
I welcome your opinions.
russell bell
From russellbell at gmail.com Sun Jul 25 10:30:37 2021
From: russellbell at gmail.com (russellbell at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 11:30:37 -0600
Subject: [joe-frank-list] 'Woman and bull in paint factory'
Message-ID: <202107251730.16PHUbA0001054@randytool.net>
This show is all re-used, including a dozen segments from 'Let
me not dream', though no mention of a paint factory, or a bull or a
stallion.
A hypnotist, a woman, instructs the listener to relax, think
his/her limbs limp. (originally in 'Let me not dream')
2: A man (Lester Nafzger?) calls an older woman, asks for
Coco. He identifies himself as Joe Frank. Coco isn't in. (I think
the caller is Lester Nafzger, am not sure. It isn't Joe.)
(originally in 'Let me not dream')
3: A man (Arthur Miller?) sings 'Make love to me' (a pop song
written in 1954
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_Love_to_Me_(1954_song) - not to be
confused with the 1942 song of the same name; song titles aren't
copyrightable) accompanied by ukulele(?). (originally in 'Let me not
dream')
5:10: A man and woman yell, as though threatened (it's
indistinct). There are sounds that could be a monster, could be
alarms. It sounds like a movie. (originally in 'Let me not dream')
6:10: A street preacher tells people they need spiritual
change, not political change; the crowd jeers him. (originally in 'Let
me not dream')
8:30: The director of River Valley camp (Arthur Miller?), a
sadistic summer camp for boys in the Brazilian Amazon, describes the
camp to Joe while showing slides. It's protected by a long stretch of
barren land, then 'electronic' barbed wire, and a 200-foot gate. The
rifle, archery, and blow-gun ranges use the boys as targets. He calls
pain 'deeper understanding'. (originally in 'Let me not dream')
14:10: A street preacher enjoins his listeners to chant, 'Hare
Krishna'. The River Valley director's voice can be made out in the
background. (originally in 'Let me not dream')
15:40: The River Valley director shows slides of 'fun night' -
Joe observes that they don't seem to be having fun. Staff get to
experiment on the campers.
The director describes visitors' day, during which the parents
can't see the children and vice-versa. Letters between campers and
parents are disposed of. (originally in 'Let me not dream')
23:40: A man calls an older woman, asks for Coco. He
identifies himself as Joe Frank. Coco isn't in. She's in England.
(originally in 'Let me not dream')
24:40: A man (Arthur Miller?) sings 'There'll never be another
you' (a pop song written in 1942
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Will_Never_Be_Another_You )
accompanied by ukulele(?). (originally in 'Let me not dream')
26:10: A man and woman yell, as though threatened (it's
indistinct). There are sounds that could be a monster, could be
alarms. (originally in 'Let me not dream')
27: A woman (Tess Steincolk) describes her mother punishing
her and her sister (Jeannie), then the mother tells them she's selling
them to the gypsies. She takes them on their usual summer vacation to
her sister's instead, but only after scaring them. (Originally in
'Bad'/'Building a church')
34: Bill West's 'The spirit cannot fail you'.
35:30: A preacher tells us how terrible things are, that god's
coming back. (It sounds like a TV preacher.) (originally in 'Let me
not dream')
38:50: 'I was born in South Dakota at the age of 4...' A man
(Lester Nafzger?) recounts impossible and conflicting versions of his
life, all involving Mt Rushmore. (originally in 'Let me not dream')
41:30: The Christian street preacher is back, talking with the
crowd. (originally in 'Let me not dream')
45:50: An old Jewish man visits his son, who confesses that he
has converted to Christianity. (originally in 'Jewish blues')
48: 'I go to church I like to sprinkle two piles of broken
glass molten ashes thumbtacks and carpet passes on the floor and kneel
down on them for hours' A guy tells us what he does in church.
(Originally in 'Bad'/'Building a church')
51: A naughty yogi falls for hippie girls with 'big
boobies'. (Originally in 'Bad'/'Building a church')
51:40: Ryan Cutrona tells us all the things he's seen god in.
(originally in 'Great lives')
53:30: Larry calls Joe, tells him how disappointed he is in
his shows lately, particularly this last bit. (Originally in
'Bad'/'Building a church')
https://jfwiki.org/index.php?title=Woman_And_Bull_In_Paint_Factory
russell bell