[joe-frank-list] 'Great lives'
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russellbell at gmail.com
Tue Aug 24 06:14:46 PDT 2021
The sound of a train; it comes to a stop.
A man (Arthur Miller), says that Stalin was very amusing with
a 'light, fey sense of humor' and more unlikely stories about him.
2:10: Joe asks the man about his claim that Hitler was a
woman, which he affirms, then tells other unlikely stories about him.
4:40: A man (Ryan Cutrona) tells about the things he has been
(holy, evil, rich, very wealthy...), then the places he has been
(Indianapolis, Korea, Venezuela, Baton Rouge, the Moon). Then he says
some things he wants to talk about - but doesn't.
5:40: A man (Tim Jerome) talks about confusion, then god, then
watching a woman doing something she should or shouldn't through a
window, whether or not you are doing what you should.
8:40: Train sounds.
9:00: Joe talks to a man (Arthur Miller) who taught at
Princeton, knew Einstein, tells unlikely stories about him, including
Einstein's affair with Marilyn Monroe.
11:30: A man (Ryan Cutrona) tells all the things he's seen god
13:40: A man (Tim Jerome) tells unlikely stories about Sigmund
15:50: Joe asks a man (Arthur Miller) about Picasso's
relationship with Gertrude Stein, allegedly an explosive affair.
18:50: A woman (German accent, real according to a
correspondent on Reddit - I don't think it's Julie Renick, the only
woman mentioned in the cast) talks about Marlene Dietrich. The first
song is 'Ach, Fräulein Annie wohnt schon lang nicht hier', 'Annie
doesn't live here anymore',
, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3tnUBwt74M ; the second song is
'Wenn ich mir was wünschen dürfte',
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx6aKAMYDHk . Dietrich sang both.
22:00: A man (Arthur Miller) tells about attending a costume
party in New York City dressed as Marlene Dietrich did for 'The Blue
Angel', where he meets her and has a relationship with her; she was in
her 50s. (She was born in 1901.)
26:50: A man (Ryan Cutrona) tells about Hitler's life as a
little girl, goes on about why we haven't been told Hitler was a
28:30: A man (Nick Ullett?) talks about Costa Frangapelli's
(fictional, I'm pretty sure) studies of the flow of time, that no
reality could exist without time stopping. Man #2 (Arthur Miller)
says that music exists in time. Man #3 (fake German accent - Tim
Jerome?) says that we have to understand silence to understand music.
(originally in 'Case studies')
30:20: This panel talks about beauty. (originally in 'Case
31:50: The panel returns to talking about music and silence,
then that we are terrified by unbounded things. (originally in 'Case
34:30: A man tells about when he was in Amsterdam, looking for
death. A woman asks him why he didn't kill himself. A panel (Arthur
Miller and Tim Jerome?) talk about death and shaving.
36:40: A man repeats 'no' forcefully, a woman tries to get him
to do it; he says he can't, pleads that she not make him do it. They
don't tell us what 'it' is.
37:50: The woman moans along with a jazz saxophone.
38:30: A man tells us about trouble he has falling asleep.
Others talk about whether you know whether you're asleep or awake.
There's a party in the background.
39:20: A man yawns and eructates; a woman laughs.
40:20: The panel talks about what nothing is; one dreamed that
he was in a coffin.
41:50: A woman makes some noises.
42:00: Joe asks if time is linear or circular. The panel
responds, not agreeing with each other. (originally in 'Case
46:20: The panel talks about time more. (originally in 'Case
48:30: Joe says that Spinoza thought that a stone that was set
in motion would think it was moving of its own wish, asks if people
believe they're free when they're not. The panel discusses. They
imagine stones writing up their experiences, publishing a
journal. (originally in 'Case studies')
53:40: A man (Ryan Cutrona) talks about when he lived in
Vienna and hung out at cafés with Freud, often saw Stalin, then
Einstein and Marilyn Monroe; Picasso drew portraits on the street. He
claims Eleanor Roosevelt turned his life around.
56:20: A woman (Julie Renick) sings 'You do something to me'
in a fake German accent, impersonating Marlene Dietrich.
Most of the panel segments are also in 'Case studies'. They
sound of a piece; I speculate that they were recorded at the same
time, that Joe didn't use all of them in 1986 ('Case studies').
Thanks to people in the German subreddit for help identifying
the 2 Marlene Dietrich songs mentioned at 19 minutes; one said her
voice is authentically German.
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