From sally at oilostatic.com Wed Feb 15 20:49:29 2006 From: sally at oilostatic.com (Sally) Date: Wed Feb 15 20:49:35 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Kate Bush In-Reply-To: <20051230010929.96174.qmail@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051230010929.96174.qmail@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Listening to the new Kate Bush album makes me wish Joe would come out with some new work featuring it! What do you think, Joe? Want me to send you a copy? From harold.johnson at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 22:24:34 2006 From: harold.johnson at gmail.com (Harold Johnson) Date: Wed Feb 15 22:24:38 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Kate Bush In-Reply-To: References: <20051230010929.96174.qmail@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2dbaf4d80602152224t5941b894u468a33500fe3da6b@mail.gmail.com> Has Joe ever used Kate Bush as a soundbed? (Isn't that what they call it, a 'soundbed'?) Harold On 2/15/06, Sally wrote: > Listening to the new Kate Bush album makes me wish Joe would come out > with some new work featuring it! > What do you think, Joe? Want me to send you a copy? > > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > From Peisithanatos at aol.com Wed Feb 15 22:59:25 2006 From: Peisithanatos at aol.com (Peisithanatos@aol.com) Date: Wed Feb 15 22:59:34 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Kate Bush Message-ID: <2b.2c0a3b5.31257ccd@aol.com> Kate Bush is my idol.... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20060216/43872123/attachment.htm From tewoodruff at yahoo.com Thu Feb 16 08:19:10 2006 From: tewoodruff at yahoo.com (tewoodruff) Date: Thu Feb 16 08:19:14 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Kate Bush In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060216161910.89314.qmail@web31107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> yes, please... I usually use www.yousendit.com for sharing albums. --- Sally wrote: > Listening to the new Kate Bush album makes me wish > Joe would come out > with some new work featuring it! > What do you think, Joe? Want me to send you a copy? > > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From karenladeeda at aol.com Thu Feb 16 10:00:28 2006 From: karenladeeda at aol.com (karenladeeda@aol.com) Date: Thu Feb 16 10:00:36 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Kate Bush In-Reply-To: <2b.2c0a3b5.31257ccd@aol.com> References: <2b.2c0a3b5.31257ccd@aol.com> Message-ID: <8C8013A012AE30E-7B4-165F@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> I saw the subject "joe frank and kate bush". that would be great! -----Original Message----- From: Peisithanatos@aol.com To: joe-frank-list@armory.com Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:59:25 EST Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] Kate Bush Kate Bush is my idol.... _______________________________________________ Joe Frank Mailing List joe-frank-list@armory.com http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20060216/a17544e9/attachment.htm From majestic_cheese at yahoo.com Thu Feb 16 20:30:06 2006 From: majestic_cheese at yahoo.com (Larry Dunn) Date: Thu Feb 16 20:30:09 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Kate Bush In-Reply-To: <200602161200.ac27613@deepthought.armory.com> Message-ID: <20060217043006.15011.qmail@web30012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > From: Sally > Listening to the new Kate Bush album makes me wish > Joe would come out > with some new work featuring it! > What do you think, Joe? Want me to send you a copy? Joe tends to use more esoteric music, usually instrumentals. I actually rather like that. I love the music he uses in his work, and would never hear it were it not for his shows. I like Kate Bush a lot, but she's much more mainstream than, say, Arling and Cameron. That said, I wouldn't care if Joe used Jennifer Lopez as the soundbed, as long as he provided new work. Anything we get from him will be great. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From harold.johnson at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 10:05:37 2006 From: harold.johnson at gmail.com (Harold Johnson) Date: Wed Feb 22 10:05:45 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Thread re: Joe Frnak web site needs updates In-Reply-To: <8C7D9503AF9738B-B64-B7D6@FWM-M05.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7D9503AF9738B-B64-B7D6@FWM-M05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2dbaf4d80602221005w1d8fdce6j9525dab8a6e03e4a@mail.gmail.com> I won't speculate about Joe's income/financial status, but I would like to offer my own point of view. Whether his financials are in order or not, Joe's status as an artist will be preserved forever. However, I think he would be wise to consider some other means of distributing his works. Streaming is good, but (currently) portable media is better. I've never enjoyed listening to Joe's works while sitting at my computer as much as I do while listening on a portable device, either with the lights out and headphones on, or driving in a car. I like to really *listen* to Joe's shows, and being tied to a PC distracts too much. Certainly there are ways around it: I can use an FM transmitter to transmit from the PC to my headphones or whatever -- but nothing ruins a Joe show more than the stream hiccupping or a battery running out on that transmitter. Neither of these happens often, but when they do it blows (especially since I have to get out of bed, turn on the lights, set up the stream again, etc.). It's not just the method of auditing Joe's works (though that obviously makes a difference). It's the sense of ownership of content. I'd much prefer to be able to purchase Joe's shows, carry them around on my portable digital audio player, and know that I'll be able to return to them whenever I want. CDs are way out of my price range, though I'd buy them from Joe if I could afford to. As it stands, CDs are prohibitively expensive (for me). So I'm much prefer to purchase digital audio files, which I'm assuming would be made available at a price point that I could afford. Audible has been mentioned, but I'm not too keen on their service. For one thing, I have issues with Audible-formats not play on my iRiver digital audio device, which plays MP3, WMA (including WMA DRM), OGG, and AVI files. I had to borrow an iPod in order to listen to the audio, and even then it was a hassle, due to being unable to convert the 10-hour long file to a more tolerable size due to Audible's DRM. (Granted, Joe's audio wouldn't be that long, but still...DRM's a bitch.) Keep in mind this is coming from someone who currently works for a digital music service, the business model of which is selling WMA DRM files. I can attest to the issues DRM presents... That said, as a consumer I would be willing to put up with DRM if that's the only way to obtain Joe's works. I understand copyright protection, and I'm concerned with it. (I have my own ambitions as a digital media artist, so I'm considering copyright in my own works.) Yet DRM seems more problematic these days; it's just not being done right yet. There are too many limitations applied to DRM -- for both the consumer and for the companies selling DRM'ed content. (Do you think Apple prefers to sell DRM content? Certainly, but only because they sell the devices. Other digital music services, not having iPods to sell, would prefer to sell un-DRM'ed audio, if only the record labels would allow them to.) I've got to head out to work now, but I'm hoping my feedback adds and opens up some more conversation on this subject. I hope JoeFrank.com considers providing portable digital audio content eventually...and hopefully sooner rather than later! Harold J. Johnson On 12/27/05, billmilosz@aol.com wrote: > > I got the idea that the site provides a source of income that Joe found > useful. The man doesn't talk about it, but he's not rolling in dough. I > think times are pretty tough at Chez Joe right now. I don't mean to imply > he is eating only ramen noodles and watching off-the-air TV but he's not > shppoing for a new 'Benz either. His health care costs are huge and I don't > think he has blue cross..... > > So I think it would be in Joe's best interest if the web site continued to > draw subscribers. > > > There was a comment abou the site having confusion subscription levels and > being hard to use, and, yeah, it is one of the most complex I've seen.... > many subscription tiers and this whole pre-queueing mechanism can be a > trifle confusing. I usually have to dig around for a while before I find > the page where I can select shows to listen to. I understand the pre-queue > mechanism saves a ton in terms of online storage and possibly streaming > charges. Running a stream server or leasing capacity tends to be very > costly. > > > I wonder if Joe should re-evaluate Audible.com ? I > think a lot of people get podcasts and content from there. Part of the > issue may be, Joe wants to stream something to you but would rather not give > you something you can download and keep and copy for your pals... > > (even though one could easily use a stream-ripper to save the Windows > Media files that Joefrank.Com streams.) > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20060222/7ce257ff/attachment.htm From harold.johnson at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 10:07:50 2006 From: harold.johnson at gmail.com (Harold Johnson) Date: Wed Feb 22 10:07:54 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Thread re: Joe Frnak web site needs updates In-Reply-To: <8C7D9503AF9738B-B64-B7D6@FWM-M05.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7D9503AF9738B-B64-B7D6@FWM-M05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2dbaf4d80602221007p13ca6463h4b4da1efca8c078d@mail.gmail.com> I won't speculate about Joe's income/financial status, but I would like to offer my own point of view. Whether his financials are in order or not, Joe's status as an artist will be preserved forever. However, I think he would be wise to consider some other means of distributing his works. Streaming is good, but (currently) portable media is better. I've never enjoyed listening to Joe's works while sitting at my computer as much as I do while listening on a portable device, either with the lights out and headphones on, or driving in a car. I like to really *listen* to Joe's shows, and being tied to a PC distracts too much. Certainly there are ways around it: I can use an FM transmitter to transmit from the PC to my headphones or whatever -- but nothing ruins a Joe show more than the stream hiccupping or a battery running out on that transmitter. Neither of these happens often, but when they do it blows (especially since I have to get out of bed, turn on the lights, set up the stream again, etc.). It's not just the method of auditing Joe's works (though that obviously makes a difference). It's the sense of ownership of content. I'd much prefer to be able to purchase Joe's shows, carry them around on my portable digital audio player, and know that I'll be able to return to them whenever I want. CDs are way out of my price range, though I'd buy them from Joe if I could afford to. As it stands, CDs are prohibitively expensive (for me). So I'm much prefer to purchase digital audio files, which I'm assuming would be made available at a price point that I could afford. Audible has been mentioned, but I'm not too keen on their service. For one thing, I have issues with Audible-formats not play on my iRiver digital audio device, which plays MP3, WMA (including WMA DRM), OGG, and AVI files. I had to borrow an iPod in order to listen to the audio, and even then it was a hassle, due to being unable to convert the 10-hour long file to a more tolerable size due to Audible's DRM. (Granted, Joe's audio wouldn't be that long, but still...DRM's a bitch.) Keep in mind this is coming from someone who currently works for a digital music service, the business model of which is selling WMA DRM files. I can attest to the issues DRM presents... That said, as a consumer I would be willing to put up with DRM if that's the only way to obtain Joe's works. I understand copyright protection, and I'm concerned with it. (I have my own ambitions as a digital media artist, so I'm considering copyright in my own works.) Yet DRM seems more problematic these days; it's just not being done right yet. There are too many limitations applied to DRM -- for both the consumer and for the companies selling DRM'ed content. (Do you think Apple prefers to sell DRM content? Certainly, but only because they sell the devices. Other digital music services, not having iPods to sell, would prefer to sell un-DRM'ed audio, if only the record labels would allow them to.) I've got to head out to work now, but I'm hoping my feedback adds and opens up some more conversation on this subject. I hope JoeFrank.com considers providing portable digital audio content eventually...and hopefully sooner rather than later! Harold J. Johnson On 12/27/05, billmilosz@aol.com wrote: > > I got the idea that the site provides a source of income that Joe found > useful. The man doesn't talk about it, but he's not rolling in dough. I > think times are pretty tough at Chez Joe right now. I don't mean to imply > he is eating only ramen noodles and watching off-the-air TV but he's not > shppoing for a new 'Benz either. His health care costs are huge and I don't > think he has blue cross..... > > So I think it would be in Joe's best interest if the web site continued to > draw subscribers. > > > There was a comment abou the site having confusion subscription levels and > being hard to use, and, yeah, it is one of the most complex I've seen.... > many subscription tiers and this whole pre-queueing mechanism can be a > trifle confusing. I usually have to dig around for a while before I find > the page where I can select shows to listen to. I understand the pre-queue > mechanism saves a ton in terms of online storage and possibly streaming > charges. Running a stream server or leasing capacity tends to be very > costly. > > > I wonder if Joe should re-evaluate Audible.com ? I > think a lot of people get podcasts and content from there. Part of the > issue may be, Joe wants to stream something to you but would rather not give > you something you can download and keep and copy for your pals... > > (even though one could easily use a stream-ripper to save the Windows > Media files that Joefrank.Com streams.) > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20060222/1c4f5120/attachment.htm From bewareofdog at mac.com Wed Feb 22 19:09:33 2006 From: bewareofdog at mac.com (bewareofdog@mac.com) Date: Wed Feb 22 19:09:39 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] (no subject) Message-ID: <20468DB0-E172-4F0B-BD67-4454AB846369@mac.com> This is the last time I do this on Joe's list, I promise, but for those of you that have asked and those of you that haven't, my podcast "Hunting Rabbit" has evolved into "Straphangers Bible" in the iTunes Music Store. The website is located at: http://web.mac.com/arete1 A direct feed is available at: http://feeds.feedburner.com/StraphangersBible Please let me know what you think... Thanks all, & Joe, hope all is well... I can't tell you how much I am looking forward to "Santa Monica Book of The Dead" From harold.johnson at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 09:13:16 2006 From: harold.johnson at gmail.com (Harold Johnson) Date: Fri Feb 24 09:13:21 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Thread re: Joe Frnak web site needs updates In-Reply-To: <2dbaf4d80602221005w1d8fdce6j9525dab8a6e03e4a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8C7D9503AF9738B-B64-B7D6@FWM-M05.sysops.aol.com> <2dbaf4d80602221005w1d8fdce6j9525dab8a6e03e4a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2dbaf4d80602240913p50298724k1cec12c0fa9fb754@mail.gmail.com> I wanted to back up some of the comments I made with an example. This news just came out; the chief of Yahoo!Music -- one of the top digital music services -- made a point of stating that record labels should try selling music online without copy protection: http://news.com.com/2061-10799_3-6042756.html?part=rss&tag=6042756&subj=news Harold P.S. In case you're wondering, I'm not working for Yahoo!Music; I'm working for Virgin Digital! On 2/22/06, Harold Johnson wrote: > > I won't speculate about Joe's income/financial status, but I would like > to offer my own point of view. Whether his financials are in order or not, > Joe's status as an artist will be preserved forever. However, I think he > would be wise to consider some other means of distributing his works. > Streaming is good, but (currently) portable media is better. I've never > enjoyed listening to Joe's works while sitting at my computer as much as I > do while listening on a portable device, either with the lights out and > headphones on, or driving in a car. I like to really *listen* to Joe's > shows, and being tied to a PC distracts too much. Certainly there are ways > around it: I can use an FM transmitter to transmit from the PC to my > headphones or whatever -- but nothing ruins a Joe show more than the stream > hiccupping or a battery running out on that transmitter. Neither of these > happens often, but when they do it blows (especially since I have to get out > of bed, turn on the lights, set up the stream again, etc.). > > It's not just the method of auditing Joe's works (though that obviously > makes a difference). It's the sense of ownership of content. I'd much > prefer to be able to purchase Joe's shows, carry them around on my portable > digital audio player, and know that I'll be able to return to them whenever > I want. CDs are way out of my price range, though I'd buy them from Joe if > I could afford to. As it stands, CDs are prohibitively expensive (for me). > So I'm much prefer to purchase digital audio files, which I'm assuming would > be made available at a price point that I could afford. > > Audible has been mentioned, but I'm not too keen on their service. For > one thing, I have issues with Audible-formats not play on my iRiver digital > audio device, which plays MP3, WMA (including WMA DRM), OGG, and AVI files. > I had to borrow an iPod in order to listen to the audio, and even then it > was a hassle, due to being unable to convert the 10-hour long file to a more > tolerable size due to Audible's DRM. (Granted, Joe's audio wouldn't be that > long, but still...DRM's a bitch.) Keep in mind this is coming from someone > who currently works for a digital music service, the business model of which > is selling WMA DRM files. I can attest to the issues DRM presents... > > That said, as a consumer I would be willing to put up with DRM if that's > the only way to obtain Joe's works. I understand copyright protection, and > I'm concerned with it. (I have my own ambitions as a digital media artist, > so I'm considering copyright in my own works.) Yet DRM seems more > problematic these days; it's just not being done right yet. There are too > many limitations applied to DRM -- for both the consumer and for the > companies selling DRM'ed content. (Do you think Apple prefers to sell DRM > content? Certainly, but only because they sell the devices. Other digital > music services, not having iPods to sell, would prefer to sell un-DRM'ed > audio, if only the record labels would allow them to.) > > I've got to head out to work now, but I'm hoping my feedback adds and > opens up some more conversation on this subject. I hope JoeFrank.comconsiders providing portable digital audio content eventually...and > hopefully sooner rather than later! > > Harold J. Johnson > > On 12/27/05, billmilosz@aol.com wrote: > > > I got the idea that the site provides a source of income that Joe found > > useful. The man doesn't talk about it, but he's not rolling in dough. I > > think times are pretty tough at Chez Joe right now. I don't mean to imply > > he is eating only ramen noodles and watching off-the-air TV but he's not > > shppoing for a new 'Benz either. His health care costs are huge and I don't > > think he has blue cross..... > > > > So I think it would be in Joe's best interest if the web site continued > > to draw subscribers. > > > > > > There was a comment abou the site having confusion subscription levels > > and being hard to use, and, yeah, it is one of the most complex I've > > seen.... many subscription tiers and this whole pre-queueing mechanism can > > be a trifle confusing. I usually have to dig around for a while before I > > find the page where I can select shows to listen to. I understand the > > pre-queue mechanism saves a ton in terms of online storage and possibly > > streaming charges. Running a stream server or leasing capacity tends to be > > very costly. > > > > > > I wonder if Joe should re-evaluate Audible.com ? I > > think a lot of people get podcasts and content from there. Part of the > > issue may be, Joe wants to stream something to you but would rather not give > > you something you can download and keep and copy for your pals... > > > > (even though one could easily use a stream-ripper to save the Windows > > Media files that Joefrank.Com streams.) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Joe Frank Mailing List > > joe-frank-list@armory.com > > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20060224/57b31736/attachment.htm From majestic_cheese at yahoo.com Sun Feb 26 12:02:17 2006 From: majestic_cheese at yahoo.com (Larry Dunn) Date: Sun Feb 26 12:02:20 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Thread re: Joe Frnak web site needs updates In-Reply-To: <200602241200.ac28124@deepthought.armory.com> Message-ID: <20060226200217.21512.qmail@web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > From: "Harold Johnson" > So I'm much prefer to purchase digital audio > files, which I'm assuming would > be made available at a price point that I could > afford. You mean, his whole library? I'm not sure that it would be worth the investment for Joe's outfit to go that way, especially when they have already invested in burning the CDs and streaming the audio, and there are hundreds of Joe's shows. "This American Life" sells shows for four bucks a pop, but they've been doing that for years, and it's a PRI show, so it's associated with that corporation, which was someone to incur the start-up cost. If I understand it correctly, Joe is running his web presence with a staff of a handful of people at best. Who would do the work of getting it set up? How much would the resulting files have to be priced at in order to recoup the startup costs? And in the end, would it be that much less than $10, the price of a CD? It's not my issue either way, as I have no ownership interest in his work, and have no problem with the streaming/CD set-up. So I don't really care all that much. But it does occur to me that one does not simply snap one's fingers and go streaming with hundreds of hours of shows -- particularly not a two or three-person outfit. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From boojum at charter.net Sun Feb 26 12:26:58 2006 From: boojum at charter.net (Robert (Sandy) Noyes) Date: Sun Feb 26 12:27:18 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Thread re: Joe Frnak web site needs updates In-Reply-To: <20060226200217.21512.qmail@web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060226200217.21512.qmail@web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44020F12.2030908@charter.net> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.0/269 - Release Date: 2/24/2006 From billmilosz at aol.com Sun Feb 26 22:01:14 2006 From: billmilosz at aol.com (billmilosz@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 26 22:01:26 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Episode confusion Message-ID: <8C8097A5A2D965E-BB8-253E@mblk-r19.sysops.aol.com> Tonight on the Chicago NPR station WBEZ, the Joe Frank episode was "Insomnia" and it was Joe going on about how he was obsessing over some sound technician who borrowed $1000 from him then never repaid him then Larry talking about Robert Redford's NYC penthouse and so on. I bought a copy of the In The Dark show titled INSOMNIA on casette from KCRW way back when and it is TOTALLY different. It's not Joe's voice at all, it's somone else - some stand up comic, his name escapes me. It's produced in a Joe way, it is one of his shows, in the past he made a few using other voices instead of his own. Also, this is a 30 minute program; tonight's program was 60 minutes. This is interesting to me. The INSOMNIA program I heard tonight, I'd never heard it before, it totally different from the I.T.D/Insomnia program I have on tape. Anybody know anything about this? Are these shows related in some way, or do they just have the same title? The 60-minute Insomnia I heard tonight on the radio, what series is that from? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20060227/525251ed/attachment.htm From billmilosz at aol.com Sun Feb 26 22:03:40 2006 From: billmilosz at aol.com (billmilosz@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 26 22:03:50 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Joe mentions "loss of original tracks- 25 years of work"...... Message-ID: <8C8097AB0D3A046-BB8-2548@mblk-r19.sysops.aol.com> In the hour long version of INSOMNIA I heard tonight on the radio, Joe mentions a oss of original tracks- 25 years of work"...... Anybody know anything about that? What was the event- deletion of files from a hard drive- a hard drive crash- destruction of reels of analog tape? ???? And- which programs were they, the ones which were lost? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20060227/288090df/attachment.htm From shiro at uclink4.berkeley.edu Sun Feb 26 22:34:38 2006 From: shiro at uclink4.berkeley.edu (Erik Shirokoff) Date: Sun Feb 26 22:34:55 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Episode confusion In-Reply-To: <8C8097A5A2D965E-BB8-253E@mblk-r19.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C8097A5A2D965E-BB8-253E@mblk-r19.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20060227063438.GA12432@jabberwock.hopto.org> Both joefrank.com and the Joe Frank wiki list two shows with the same title. The half hour one featuring an actor is from 1995. The hour long program is from 2001. http://jfwiki.org/index.php/Insomnia http://www.joefrank.com/salesCDhp.html Best, Erik On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 01:01:14AM -0500, billmilosz@aol.com wrote: > Tonight on the Chicago NPR station WBEZ, the Joe Frank episode was "Insomnia" and it was Joe going on about how he was obsessing over some sound technician who borrowed $1000 from him then never repaid him then Larry talking about Robert Redford's NYC penthouse and so on. > > I bought a copy of the In The Dark show titled INSOMNIA on casette from KCRW way back when and it is TOTALLY different. It's not Joe's voice at all, it's somone else - some stand up comic, his name escapes me. It's produced in a Joe way, it is one of his shows, in the past he made a few using other voices instead of his own. Also, this is a 30 minute program; tonight's program was 60 minutes. > > This is interesting to me. The INSOMNIA program I heard tonight, I'd never heard it before, it totally different from the I.T.D/Insomnia program I have on tape. Anybody know anything about this? Are these shows related in some way, or do they just have the same title? The 60-minute Insomnia I heard tonight on the radio, what series is that from? > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list From billmilosz at aol.com Mon Feb 27 01:20:21 2006 From: billmilosz at aol.com (billmilosz@aol.com) Date: Mon Feb 27 01:20:29 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Episode confusion In-Reply-To: <20060227063438.GA12432@jabberwock.hopto.org> References: <8C8097A5A2D965E-BB8-253E@mblk-r19.sysops.aol.com> <20060227063438.GA12432@jabberwock.hopto.org> Message-ID: <8C809962B1CC403-16E0-463E@mblk-d25.sysops.aol.com> Well, that's the answer then. Interesting, two shows with the saem title but different formats and subject matter. -----Original Message----- From: Erik Shirokoff To: Joe Frank Mailing List Sent: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:34:38 -0800 Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] Episode confusion Both joefrank.com and the Joe Frank wiki list two shows with the same title. The half hour one featuring an actor is from 1995. The hour long program is from 2001. http://jfwiki.org/index.php/Insomnia http://www.joefrank.com/salesCDhp.html Best, Erik On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 01:01:14AM -0500, billmilosz@aol.com wrote: > Tonight on the Chicago NPR station WBEZ, the Joe Frank episode was "Insomnia" and it was Joe going on about how he was obsessing over some sound technician who borrowed $1000 from him then never repaid him then Larry talking about Robert Redford's NYC penthouse and so on. > > I bought a copy of the In The Dark show titled INSOMNIA on casette from KCRW way back when and it is TOTALLY different. It's not Joe's voice at all, it's somone else - some stand up comic, his name escapes me. It's produced in a Joe way, it is one of his shows, in the past he made a few using other voices instead of his own. Also, this is a 30 minute program; tonight's program was 60 minutes. > > This is interesting to me. The INSOMNIA program I heard tonight, I'd never heard it before, it totally different from the I.T.D/Insomnia program I have on tape. Anybody know anything about this? Are these shows related in some way, or do they just have the same title? The 60-minute Insomnia I heard tonight on the radio, what series is that from? > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list _______________________________________________ Joe Frank Mailing List joe-frank-list@armory.com http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20060227/136c4f9f/attachment.htm From estrada9 at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 12:24:51 2006 From: estrada9 at gmail.com (El Presidente, Erik Estrada) Date: Tue Feb 28 12:24:57 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Particular Joe Frank program Message-ID: <003f01c63ca5$086fe8a0$bb02a8c0@wally> Hello - I'm doing a paper on Joe Frank for an English class and am trying to cite a particular program. The one I'm thinking of has a Jack Kornfield story in it where a grieving woman approaches a Buddhist monk (or someone to that effect) to bring her dead child back to life. The monk instructs her to go get a cup of rice (or something to that effect) from a household where no one has died. So she goes out and is unable to find a household where no one has experienced death and she is illuminated to the fact that we all share this tragic experience. Does that ring any bells? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20060228/10365a45/attachment.htm From boojum at charter.net Tue Feb 28 14:18:22 2006 From: boojum at charter.net (Robert (Sandy) Noyes) Date: Tue Feb 28 14:18:23 2006 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Particular Joe Frank program In-Reply-To: <003f01c63ca5$086fe8a0$bb02a8c0@wally> References: <003f01c63ca5$086fe8a0$bb02a8c0@wally> Message-ID: <4404CC2E.3000404@charter.net> You might try here if no one can remember the episode you ask about: http://jfwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page El Presidente, Erik Estrada wrote: > Hello - > > I'm doing a paper on Joe Frank for an English class and am trying to > cite a particular program. The one I'm thinking of has a Jack > Kornfield story in it where a grieving woman approaches a Buddhist > monk (or someone to that effect) to bring her dead child back to > life. The monk instructs her to go get a cup of rice (or something to > that effect) from a household where no one has died. So she goes out > and is unable to find a household where no one has experienced death > and she is illuminated to the fact that we all share this tragic > experience. > > Does that ring any bells? Any help would be much appreciated. > > Thanks! > Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 2/28/2006 > -- A true friend unbosoms freely, advises justly, assists readily, adventures boldly, takes all patiently, defends courageously, and continues a friend unchangeably. - William Penn Sandy Noyes 474 Floral Street Astoria, OR 97103 boojum@charter.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 2/28/2006