From ghastly_fop at yahoo.com Sat Jan 1 06:42:22 2005
From: ghastly_fop at yahoo.com (Levent)
Date: Sat Jan 1 06:43:56 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
In-Reply-To: <20041231203421.GD50541@or.pair.com>
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Middlebrow? I don't know where you live, but I don't
see anything remotely middlebrow about Joe's work.
--- Mike Linksvayer <ml@gondwanaland.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 08:07:52AM -0800, Gretchen
> Treuting wrote:
> > After listening to Joe Frank's shows for nearly
> twenty
> > years, I had to be out of town at the same time of
> his
> > one live performance in northern California
> (November
> > 21). Could someone describe the event? Thanks.
>
> I attended the afternoon show. Both were sold out.
> The show was
> pretty much exactly like a JF radio show with a live
> dancer and
> trombone (or was it a trumpet?) player to accompany
> musical interludes
> and short films to accompany some of Joe's
> monologue. I seem to
> recall hearing much of the content before, e.g., a
> homeless guy
> standing on a median strip in Hollywood tells of the
> glamorous
> lifestyle he leads when not breating motorists
> stopped at his traffic
> light, and a guy who stops for a female hitchhiker
> who refuses the
> ride ... the guy spies on the hitchiker and it turns
> out that
> everyone who has tried to pick her up is also
> peering into her hotel
> room from another hotel across the way, and others,
> but I have a
> hard time remembering what comes from which show and
> what I've
> heard before.
>
> Anyway, it was an enjoyable show, well worth seeing
> live for a fan,
> or for someone who ought to be a fan but can't be
> bothered to listen
> to a radio program.
>
> Joe's material is thoroughly middlebrow with very
> wide appeal. I
> figure he could be very successful if he toured or
> did extended
> runs.
>
> IMHO he ought to be using the net to spread the word
> so to speak
> rather than trying to hustle subscriptions from his
> existing small
> fan base.
>
> --
> Mike Linksvayer
> http://gondwanaland.com/ml/
> _______________________________________________
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> joe-frank-list@armory.com
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From creigeallan at yahoo.com Sat Jan 1 10:22:24 2005
From: creigeallan at yahoo.com (craig millman)
Date: Sat Jan 1 10:23:56 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
In-Reply-To: <20050101144222.74468.qmail@web52503.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050101182224.18667.qmail@web20928.mail.yahoo.com>
suggesting joe is middlebrow is like saying beckett
should be book of the month club. there's too much
painful truth in their work for the bulk of humanity.
joe's prose may not have the academic complexity of
literary theorists, but who needs to play mental
gymnastics? a lot of it is interesting.
--- Levent <ghastly_fop@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Middlebrow? I don't know where you live, but I
> don't
> see anything remotely middlebrow about Joe's work.
>
> --- Mike Linksvayer <ml@gondwanaland.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 08:07:52AM -0800, Gretchen
> > Treuting wrote:
> > > After listening to Joe Frank's shows for nearly
> > twenty
> > > years, I had to be out of town at the same time
> of
> > his
> > > one live performance in northern California
> > (November
> > > 21). Could someone describe the event? Thanks.
> >
> > I attended the afternoon show. Both were sold
> out.
> > The show was
> > pretty much exactly like a JF radio show with a
> live
> > dancer and
> > trombone (or was it a trumpet?) player to
> accompany
> > musical interludes
> > and short films to accompany some of Joe's
> > monologue. I seem to
> > recall hearing much of the content before, e.g., a
> > homeless guy
> > standing on a median strip in Hollywood tells of
> the
> > glamorous
> > lifestyle he leads when not breating motorists
> > stopped at his traffic
> > light, and a guy who stops for a female hitchhiker
> > who refuses the
> > ride ... the guy spies on the hitchiker and it
> turns
> > out that
> > everyone who has tried to pick her up is also
> > peering into her hotel
> > room from another hotel across the way, and
> others,
> > but I have a
> > hard time remembering what comes from which show
> and
> > what I've
> > heard before.
> >
> > Anyway, it was an enjoyable show, well worth
> seeing
> > live for a fan,
> > or for someone who ought to be a fan but can't be
> > bothered to listen
> > to a radio program.
> >
> > Joe's material is thoroughly middlebrow with very
> > wide appeal. I
> > figure he could be very successful if he toured or
> > did extended
> > runs.
> >
> > IMHO he ought to be using the net to spread the
> word
> > so to speak
> > rather than trying to hustle subscriptions from
> his
> > existing small
> > fan base.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Linksvayer
> > http://gondwanaland.com/ml/
> > _______________________________________________
> > Joe Frank Mailing List
> > joe-frank-list@armory.com
> >
>
http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list
> >
>
>
>
>
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From joeRoymeo at brokenoffcarantenna.com Sat Jan 1 12:10:27 2005
From: joeRoymeo at brokenoffcarantenna.com (joeRoymeo@brokenoffcarantenna.com)
Date: Sat Jan 1 12:10:42 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
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Depends on whether you consider Middlebrow just an insult or not....
Joe does take us through a lot of things like epistemology, but he's not
doing it in a Highbrow sort of way...He takes us along, instead of assuming
we've already read the original sources on epistemology, recently, and
integrated them all.
There's nothing insulting about Middlebrow, unless you're shooting for
Highbrow and failing.
Anyone catch that article a couple years ago about why Terri Gross is
Middlebrow?
roymeo
(send in the spam!)
At 09:42 AM 1/1/2005, you wrote:
>Middlebrow? I don't know where you live, but I don't
>see anything remotely middlebrow about Joe's work.
>
>--- Mike Linksvayer <ml@gondwanaland.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 08:07:52AM -0800, Gretchen
> > Treuting wrote:
> > > After listening to Joe Frank's shows for nearly
> > twenty
> > > years, I had to be out of town at the same time of
> > his
> > > one live performance in northern California
> > (November
> > > 21). Could someone describe the event? Thanks.
> >
> > I attended the afternoon show. Both were sold out.
> > The show was
> > pretty much exactly like a JF radio show with a live
> > dancer and
> > trombone (or was it a trumpet?) player to accompany
> > musical interludes
> > and short films to accompany some of Joe's
> > monologue. I seem to
> > recall hearing much of the content before, e.g., a
> > homeless guy
> > standing on a median strip in Hollywood tells of the
> > glamorous
> > lifestyle he leads when not breating motorists
> > stopped at his traffic
> > light, and a guy who stops for a female hitchhiker
> > who refuses the
> > ride ... the guy spies on the hitchiker and it turns
> > out that
> > everyone who has tried to pick her up is also
> > peering into her hotel
> > room from another hotel across the way, and others,
> > but I have a
> > hard time remembering what comes from which show and
> > what I've
> > heard before.
> >
> > Anyway, it was an enjoyable show, well worth seeing
> > live for a fan,
> > or for someone who ought to be a fan but can't be
> > bothered to listen
> > to a radio program.
> >
> > Joe's material is thoroughly middlebrow with very
> > wide appeal. I
> > figure he could be very successful if he toured or
> > did extended
> > runs.
> >
> > IMHO he ought to be using the net to spread the word
> > so to speak
> > rather than trying to hustle subscriptions from his
> > existing small
> > fan base.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Linksvayer
> > http://gondwanaland.com/ml/
> > _______________________________________________
> > Joe Frank Mailing List
> > joe-frank-list@armory.com
> >
>http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list
> >
>
>
>
>
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From ml at gondwanaland.com Sat Jan 1 14:00:56 2005
From: ml at gondwanaland.com (Mike Linksvayer)
Date: Sat Jan 1 14:01:01 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050101145327.0215c570@mail.brokenoffcarantenna.com>
References: <20041231203421.GD50541@or.pair.com>
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Message-ID: <20050101220056.GA16337@or.pair.com>
On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 03:10:27PM -0500, joeRoymeo@brokenoffcarantenna.com wrote:
> Depends on whether you consider Middlebrow just an insult or not....
I didn't mean it as an insult at all, just part of a realization that JF
has a far larger potential fanbase than he does.
> Joe does take us through a lot of things like epistemology, but he's not
> doing it in a Highbrow sort of way...He takes us along, instead of assuming
> we've already read the original sources on epistemology, recently, and
> integrated them all.
>
> There's nothing insulting about Middlebrow, unless you're shooting for
> Highbrow and failing.
Exactly.
--
Mike Linksvayer
http://gondwanaland.com/ml/
From stanford at localblack.com Sat Jan 1 14:07:06 2005
From: stanford at localblack.com (Robert W. Stanford President)
Date: Sat Jan 1 14:17:52 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
In-Reply-To: <20050101220056.GA16337@or.pair.com>
Message-ID: <MAEDJCAJAJFNMCBDIAKIOENLDPAA.stanford@localblack.com>
I don't mean to be sounding completely ignorant - however - I am missing the
beaning of the brow thing - at first, I actually thought it was a town -
could someone please tell me what the low medium and high brow things
actually stand for - is this like a reporter's term like ("that's a 30!")?
Yours in the Struggle,
Robert W. Stanford President
http://www.LocalBlack.Com
"A Civil Rights Support Organization"
PO Box 576684
Modesto, CA 95357
(209) 496-0402
-----Original Message-----
From: joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com
[mailto:joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com]On Behalf Of Mike Linksvayer
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 2:01 PM
To: Joe Frank Mailing List
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 03:10:27PM -0500, joeRoymeo@brokenoffcarantenna.com
wrote:
> Depends on whether you consider Middlebrow just an insult or not....
I didn't mean it as an insult at all, just part of a realization that JF
has a far larger potential fanbase than he does.
> Joe does take us through a lot of things like epistemology, but he's not
> doing it in a Highbrow sort of way...He takes us along, instead of
assuming
> we've already read the original sources on epistemology, recently, and
> integrated them all.
>
> There's nothing insulting about Middlebrow, unless you're shooting for
> Highbrow and failing.
Exactly.
--
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http://gondwanaland.com/ml/
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From tkelm94520 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 1 14:41:55 2005
From: tkelm94520 at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Sat Jan 1 14:43:27 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
In-Reply-To: <MAEDJCAJAJFNMCBDIAKIOENLDPAA.stanford@localblack.com>
Message-ID: <20050101224155.25389.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com>
Thesaurus.com would be your best bet. The way i understood it at first was someone who is mediocre. That definition is not too far from what i found online. Here is what the dictionary says.
One who is somewhat cultured, with conventional tastes and interests; one who is neither highbrow nor lowbrow.
"Robert W. Stanford President" <stanford@localblack.com> wrote:
I don't mean to be sounding completely ignorant - however - I am missing the
beaning of the brow thing - at first, I actually thought it was a town -
could someone please tell me what the low medium and high brow things
actually stand for - is this like a reporter's term like ("that's a 30!")?
Yours in the Struggle,
Robert W. Stanford President
http://www.LocalBlack.Com
"A Civil Rights Support Organization"
PO Box 576684
Modesto, CA 95357
(209) 496-0402
-----Original Message-----
From: joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com
[mailto:joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com]On Behalf Of Mike Linksvayer
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 2:01 PM
To: Joe Frank Mailing List
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 03:10:27PM -0500, joeRoymeo@brokenoffcarantenna.com
wrote:
> Depends on whether you consider Middlebrow just an insult or not....
I didn't mean it as an insult at all, just part of a realization that JF
has a far larger potential fanbase than he does.
> Joe does take us through a lot of things like epistemology, but he's not
> doing it in a Highbrow sort of way...He takes us along, instead of
assuming
> we've already read the original sources on epistemology, recently, and
> integrated them all.
>
> There's nothing insulting about Middlebrow, unless you're shooting for
> Highbrow and failing.
Exactly.
--
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http://gondwanaland.com/ml/
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From stanford at localblack.com Sat Jan 1 14:39:23 2005
From: stanford at localblack.com (Robert W. Stanford President)
Date: Sat Jan 1 14:48:41 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
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Ok - I think I get it now - this title pretty much sums it up for me
Highbrow/Lowbrow: The Emergence of Cultural Hierarchy in America (William E.
Massey, Sr. Lectures in the History of American C)
by Lawrence W. Levine
Yours in the Struggle,
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[mailto:joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com]On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 2:42 PM
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Subject: RE: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
Thesaurus.com would be your best bet. The way i understood it at first was
someone who is mediocre. That definition is not too far from what i found
online. Here is what the dictionary says.
One who is somewhat cultured, with conventional tastes and interests; one
who is neither highbrow nor lowbrow.
"Robert W. Stanford President" <stanford@localblack.com> wrote:
I don't mean to be sounding completely ignorant - however - I am missing
the
beaning of the brow thing - at first, I actually thought it was a town -
could someone please tell me what the low medium and high brow things
actually stand for - is this like a reporter's term like ("that's a
30!")?
Yours in the Struggle,
Robert W. Stanford President
http://www.LocalBlack.Com
"A Civil Rights Support Organization"
PO Box 576684
Modesto, CA 95357
(209) 496-0402
-----Original Message-----
From: joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com
[mailto:joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com]On Behalf Of Mike Linksvayer
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Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 03:10:27PM -0500,
joeRoymeo@brokenoffcarantenna.com
wrote:
> Depends on whether you consider Middlebrow just an insult or not....
I didn't mean it as an insult at all, just part of a realization that JF
has a far larger potential fanbase than he does.
> Joe does take us through a lot of things like epistemology, but he's
not
> doing it in a Highbrow sort of way...He takes us along, instead of
assuming
> we've already read the original sources on epistemology, recently, and
> integrated them all.
>
> There's nothing insulting about Middlebrow, unless you're shooting for
> Highbrow and failing.
Exactly.
--
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http://gondwanaland.com/ml/
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From ml at gondwanaland.com Sat Jan 1 14:49:33 2005
From: ml at gondwanaland.com (Mike Linksvayer)
Date: Sat Jan 1 14:49:39 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
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On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 02:07:06PM -0800, Robert W. Stanford President wrote:
> I don't mean to be sounding completely ignorant - however - I am missing the
> beaning of the brow thing - at first, I actually thought it was a town -
> could someone please tell me what the low medium and high brow things
> actually stand for - is this like a reporter's term like ("that's a 30!")?
Mr. President, google is your friend. Anyway, from
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/21/messages/72.html
HIGHBROW/LOWBROW - "Dr. Franz Joseph Gall (1758-1828),
founder of the 'science' of phrenology, gave support to the
old folk notion that people with big foreheads have more
brains." The theory, later discredited, "led to the expression
'highbrow' for an intellectual, which is first recorded in
1875.New York Sun reporter Will Irvin popularized 'highbrow,'
and its opposite 'lowbrow' in 1902, basing his creation on
the wrongful notion that people with high foreheads have
bigger brains and are more intelligent and intellectual
than those with low foreheads. At first the term was
complimentary, but 'highbrow' came to be at best a neutral
word .Life magazine coined the term 'middlebrow' in the
mid-1940s." From "Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins"
by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997).
Calling some activity or entertainment or cultural event
by one of these three terms is very chancy these days. There
is no general agreement or clear dividing line to : clarify
where (for example) middlebrow begins and ends. Unless you
are willing to stand your ground against verbal attack,
it's best to avoid the classifications. (But hey, being
reckless, I'll give you a quick self-test: was your favorite
film of the past year Adaptation, My Big Fat Greek Wedding,
or Jackass? They are high, middle, low.)
Hmm, I'd call Adaptation middlebrow, so take my assessment of Joe
Frank's brow with a grain of salt. Regardless of browness, I gather
Adaptation was pretty sucessful, proving there's a big audience for
high/middlebrow stuff.
Reckless for the new year,
Mike
p.s. Google isn't a great friend when you ask it about numbers. What's
"that's a 30!" mean?
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From stanford at localblack.com Sat Jan 1 14:57:37 2005
From: stanford at localblack.com (Robert W. Stanford President)
Date: Sat Jan 1 15:06:54 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
In-Reply-To: <20050101224933.GA37543@or.pair.com>
Message-ID: <MAEDJCAJAJFNMCBDIAKIKEOFDPAA.stanford@localblack.com>
"That's a 30!", is as I believe (without googling over it) - a reporters
term that he is totally done with a story or a feature or news item. I think
I first heard Les Nesman<sp> from WKRP in Cincinatti (the tv show
actually) - use it, and since I aspired at that time to be a writer (much
like les nesman<sp> himself :)-), I began writing the number 30 at the end
of all of my work when it was finished (articles mostly).
I have heard it several times since then, usually tied to the gritty
reporters of the 30's and 40's.
Happy New Year,
Mr. President
Yours in the Struggle,
Robert W. Stanford President
http://www.LocalBlack.Com
"A Civil Rights Support Organization"
PO Box 576684
Modesto, CA 95357
(209) 496-0402
-----Original Message-----
From: joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com
[mailto:joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com]On Behalf Of Mike Linksvayer
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 2:50 PM
To: Joe Frank Mailing List
Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 02:07:06PM -0800, Robert W. Stanford President
wrote:
> I don't mean to be sounding completely ignorant - however - I am missing
the
> beaning of the brow thing - at first, I actually thought it was a town -
> could someone please tell me what the low medium and high brow things
> actually stand for - is this like a reporter's term like ("that's a 30!")?
Mr. President, google is your friend. Anyway, from
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/21/messages/72.html
HIGHBROW/LOWBROW - "Dr. Franz Joseph Gall (1758-1828),
founder of the 'science' of phrenology, gave support to the
old folk notion that people with big foreheads have more
brains." The theory, later discredited, "led to the expression
'highbrow' for an intellectual, which is first recorded in
1875.New York Sun reporter Will Irvin popularized 'highbrow,'
and its opposite 'lowbrow' in 1902, basing his creation on
the wrongful notion that people with high foreheads have
bigger brains and are more intelligent and intellectual
than those with low foreheads. At first the term was
complimentary, but 'highbrow' came to be at best a neutral
word .Life magazine coined the term 'middlebrow' in the
mid-1940s." From "Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins"
by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997).
Calling some activity or entertainment or cultural event
by one of these three terms is very chancy these days. There
is no general agreement or clear dividing line to : clarify
where (for example) middlebrow begins and ends. Unless you
are willing to stand your ground against verbal attack,
it's best to avoid the classifications. (But hey, being
reckless, I'll give you a quick self-test: was your favorite
film of the past year Adaptation, My Big Fat Greek Wedding,
or Jackass? They are high, middle, low.)
Hmm, I'd call Adaptation middlebrow, so take my assessment of Joe
Frank's brow with a grain of salt. Regardless of browness, I gather
Adaptation was pretty sucessful, proving there's a big audience for
high/middlebrow stuff.
Reckless for the new year,
Mike
p.s. Google isn't a great friend when you ask it about numbers. What's
"that's a 30!" mean?
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From matthewshepherd at hotmail.com Sun Jan 2 04:10:26 2005
From: matthewshepherd at hotmail.com (Matthew Shepherd)
Date: Sun Jan 2 04:11:05 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] San Francisco performance
In-Reply-To: <20050101224933.GA37543@or.pair.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F7CE858DB31A2A0DE349C2AC9F0@phx.gbl>
>p.s. Google isn't a great friend when you ask it about numbers. What's
>"that's a 30!" mean?
>
Hi Mike,
Well, in the old-old-old days, newspaper reporters used to end stories (I
THINK stories they were sending by telegram, but I'm not 100% on that) with
XXX to indicate that there was nothing else coming. After a while, the
triple-X got "slanged" into its Roman numeral equivalent of "30".
There are a few other theories about why "30" is used, but that's the one I
heard first and most often.
- Matt
From BILLMILOSZ at aol.com Mon Jan 10 02:51:34 2005
From: BILLMILOSZ at aol.com (BILLMILOSZ@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jan 10 02:51:46 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] JF Web site questions
Message-ID: <192.36f0942c.2f13b836@aol.com>
Under the December premium, I see the following things listed- but there's
no link to listen to them. If they're not actually Premium audio items, I
can't quite figure out why they're mentioned..... please advise.
ON http://joefrank.com/shownew.html the following are listed but there's no
link to the audio
Rare early Joe Frank stories
from NPR Playhouse:
"The Nightwatchman"
"Caldwell" (and his out-of-body experience)
"Long Island Memories," and
"Beautiful Woman on Elevator"
ALSO:
>From November material- the following are listed, but there's no links
Joe Frank Short Film
"The Perfect Woman" - play time: 13:55
Joe's search for the perfect woman backfires. Joe Frank Band Rehearsal
AND from October material, the following are listed without links:
Live at Market Street" - play time: 56:10 - the audio of a Joe Frank live
performance from Santa Monica 1988.
Joe Frank Short Film
?? ? ? "Jilted Lover" - play time: 8:06
Joe stalks his ex-girlfriend and her new lover.
Thanks
Bill Milosz
Chicago
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From arrigo at vision.caltech.edu Sat Jan 15 09:36:42 2005
From: arrigo at vision.caltech.edu (Arrigo Benedetti)
Date: Sat Jan 15 09:37:02 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] new material at joefrank.com
Message-ID: <41E954AA.4010305@vision.caltech.edu>
The January monthly premium is available! i just listened to Fire, a
very personal and hilarious recount of the Ruth Seymour story.
good stuff!
-Arrigo
From BILLMILOSZ at aol.com Mon Jan 17 05:34:52 2005
From: BILLMILOSZ at aol.com (BILLMILOSZ@aol.com)
Date: Mon Jan 17 05:34:59 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] An idea
Message-ID: <142.3d523c45.2f1d18fc@aol.com>
I noticed on the Joe Frank site that they reduced the price of a Premium
subscription a few dollars and anyone who bought a recurring Premium membership
before mid-November is still being billed at the (slightly) higher rate. (New
rate is $9.99 a month, old rate was $11.99 a month.) In order to get the new
rate, one has to cancel the old membership and get a NEW membership, then the
monthly ding to your credit card or PayPal will go down.
My idea: those of us who can afford it can show a little extra support by NOT
moving ourselves over to the new rate. This means we'd give Joe an extra
$36.00 a year. Not much, but perhaps a gesture that, like spinning a
prayer-wheel, will boost your karma a little more each time it comes around.....
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From tjh219 at nyu.edu Tue Jan 18 15:25:45 2005
From: tjh219 at nyu.edu (Tayt J Harlin)
Date: Tue Jan 18 15:25:51 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] The Pilot
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From shiro at uclink4.berkeley.edu Wed Jan 19 23:31:33 2005
From: shiro at uclink4.berkeley.edu (Erik Shirokoff)
Date: Wed Jan 19 23:31:42 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] The Pilot
In-Reply-To: <55e91b55e0b7.55e0b755e91b@nyu.edu>
References: <55e91b55e0b7.55e0b755e91b@nyu.edu>
Message-ID: <20050120073133.GA1419@jabberwock.hopto.org>
Hi Tayt,
On my copy of Pilot, there isn't much music. There's some very faint tinny sounding stuff behind some of the group dialog (from a small radio speaker, in context), and the chanting during the native dance, and some very smooth ambient stuff 12 minutes into it when the major has an attack and and also around 24 minutes into it.
Which bit were you looking for? (Not that I recognized any of it. . . but someone else might be able to help.)
take care,
Erik
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 06:25:45PM -0500, Tayt J Harlin wrote:
Anyone have any idea what music is playing at the beginning of the program The Pilot?
From ddyer at real-me.net Thu Jan 20 11:19:40 2005
From: ddyer at real-me.net (Dave Dyer)
Date: Thu Jan 20 11:19:32 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] name that program:
Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.1.20050120111428.03fecb38@127.0.0.1>
Starts with "for the last 3 1/2 years I have been conducting a sexual relationship with Melanie Lowenburg". Features mainly a dialog with a
black preacher, who among other things uses religion to justify all his
vices as part of God's plan. God leaves but he's still there. Larry
talks about primitive cultures and the sexual habits of Baboons.
this program aired on kuow2 last week.
From rlocke at uiuc.edu Thu Jan 20 11:25:37 2005
From: rlocke at uiuc.edu (Locke, Randy)
Date: Thu Jan 20 11:25:41 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] name that program:
Message-ID: <33E3DF67495D6B4D8E3C0BB151F562A4014B3CDC@hercules.sws.uiuc.edu>
One of my favorites... Jam.
Randy
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> Starts with "for the last 3 1/2 years I have been conducting a sexual
> relationship with Melanie Lowenburg". Features mainly a dialog with
a
> black preacher, who among other things uses religion to justify all
his
> vices as part of God's plan. God leaves but he's still there. Larry
> talks about primitive cultures and the sexual habits of Baboons.
>
> this program aired on kuow2 last week.
>
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From mckeever_bpm at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 11:43:08 2005
From: mckeever_bpm at yahoo.com (brian mckeever)
Date: Thu Jan 20 11:44:40 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] name that program:
In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.1.20050120111428.03fecb38@127.0.0.1>
Message-ID: <20050120194308.29197.qmail@web20921.mail.yahoo.com>
"Jam." My absolute favorite
--- Dave Dyer <ddyer@real-me.net> wrote:
>
> Starts with "for the last 3 1/2 years I have been
> conducting a sexual relationship with Melanie
> Lowenburg". Features mainly a dialog with a
> black preacher, who among other things uses religion
> to justify all his
> vices as part of God's plan. God leaves but he's
> still there. Larry
> talks about primitive cultures and the sexual habits
> of Baboons.
>
> this program aired on kuow2 last week.
>
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From briancara at lycos.com Thu Jan 20 11:31:01 2005
From: briancara at lycos.com (Brian Cara)
Date: Thu Jan 20 12:01:30 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] name that program:
Message-ID: <20050120193101.7F2CEE5BCB@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com>
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From: "Dave Dyer" <ddyer@real-me.net>
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Subject: [joe-frank-list] name that program:
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:19:40 -0800
>
>
> Starts with "for the last 3 1/2 years I have been conducting a
> sexual relationship with Melanie Lowenburg".
Jam.
Features mainly a
> dialog with a
> black preacher, who among other things uses religion to justify all his
> vices as part of God's plan. God leaves but he's still there. Larry
> talks about primitive cultures and the sexual habits of Baboons.
>
> this program aired on kuow2 last week.
>
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From tjh219 at nyu.edu Thu Jan 20 12:13:13 2005
From: tjh219 at nyu.edu (Tayt J Harlin)
Date: Thu Jan 20 12:13:19 2005
Subject: [joe-frank-list] The Pilot
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