From epierce at rcn.com Mon Mar 8 16:31:02 2004 From: epierce at rcn.com (Eric Pierce) Date: Mon Mar 8 13:31:05 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Spaulding Gray In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Looks like now it's official. The body they found in the East River over the weekend has been identified as Spaulding Gray. http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/08/obit.gray.ap/index.html > -----Original Message----- > From: joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com > [mailto:joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com]On Behalf Of Eric Pierce > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 2:40 PM > To: Joe Frank Mailing List > Subject: RE: [joe-frank-list] Spaulding Gray > > > > For anyone interested, here's a quick link to the New York > magazine story... > > http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/features/n_9787/ > > - Eric > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com > > [mailto:joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com]On Behalf Of mary rapacke > > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 2:24 PM > > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Spaulding Gray > > > > > > I'm brand new to the group - glad I found you. If > > you've already discussed this at great length, I > > apologize. I just read the New York magazine cover > > article about him - did anyone else read it? It's a > > very sad situation. His wife says she believes he's > > dead. The last few years of his life apparently were > > pretty awful, but those who knew him thought he was > > finally bouncing back... > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > > _______________________________________________ > > Joe Frank Mailing List > > joe-frank-list@armory.com > > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list From daveg at post1.com Tue Mar 9 23:19:50 2004 From: daveg at post1.com (David Gutierrez) Date: Tue Mar 9 20:11:37 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Joe Frank on WFMU Message-ID: <404E9766.6030105@post1.com> WFMU (in the NY/NJ listening area) is having their annual 2-week pledge drive. They play Joe Frank on Thursday nights between 7 and 8pm. If you want to support them, you can pledge online at WFMU.org. Check out their premiums for Joe Frank's show: http://www.wfmu.org/marathon/premiums.php (must scroll down to Thursday, 7-8pm) Dave From daveg at post1.com Thu Mar 11 19:37:10 2004 From: daveg at post1.com (David Gutierrez) Date: Thu Mar 11 16:29:17 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank on WFMU In-Reply-To: <404E9766.6030105@post1.com> References: <404E9766.6030105@post1.com> Message-ID: <40510636.9000403@post1.com> Fellow Frankophiles, As a followup to this email, I just wanted to let everyone know that Joe Frank is live on the air taking calls as well during this WFMU pledge drive. If you don't get this email until it is too late, I believe he will be on again next Thursday 7pm - 8pm Eastern Time. There is a special number for those who would like to speak to Joe to ask questions on-air: 201-209-9368 Dave David Gutierrez wrote: > WFMU (in the NY/NJ listening area) is having their annual 2-week > pledge drive. They play Joe Frank on Thursday nights between 7 and > 8pm. If you want to support them, you can pledge online at WFMU.org. > Check out their premiums for Joe Frank's show: > http://www.wfmu.org/marathon/premiums.php (must scroll down to > Thursday, 7-8pm) > > Dave > From uhohjf at yahoo.com Tue Mar 16 09:44:42 2004 From: uhohjf at yahoo.com (B. Thong) Date: Tue Mar 16 09:44:44 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank on WFMU In-Reply-To: <40510636.9000403@post1.com> Message-ID: <20040316174442.51492.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Did anyone record it? PS: Joe's gonna be doing a live performance with Sandra Tsing Loh. Check his website. Bob Seattle --- David Gutierrez wrote: > Fellow Frankophiles, > As a followup to this email, I just wanted to let everyone know that Joe > Frank is live on the air taking calls as well during this WFMU pledge > drive. If you don't get this email until it is too late, I believe he > will be on again next Thursday 7pm - 8pm Eastern Time. There is a > special number for those who would like to speak to Joe to ask questions > on-air: 201-209-9368 > > Dave > > David Gutierrez wrote: > > > WFMU (in the NY/NJ listening area) is having their annual 2-week > > pledge drive. They play Joe Frank on Thursday nights between 7 and > > 8pm. If you want to support them, you can pledge online at WFMU.org. > > Check out their premiums for Joe Frank's show: > > http://www.wfmu.org/marathon/premiums.php (must scroll down to > > Thursday, 7-8pm) > > > > Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From bbrace at eskimo.com Tue Mar 16 12:57:13 2004 From: bbrace at eskimo.com ({ brad brace }) Date: Tue Mar 16 12:57:19 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] new joe-franks? 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Check his > website. > > Bob > Seattle > --- David Gutierrez wrote: > > Fellow Frankophiles, > > As a followup to this email, I just wanted to let > everyone know that Joe > > Frank is live on the air taking calls as well > during this WFMU pledge > > drive. If you don't get this email until it is too > late, I believe he > > will be on again next Thursday 7pm - 8pm Eastern > Time. There is a > > special number for those who would like to speak > to Joe to ask questions > > on-air: 201-209-9368 > > > > Dave > > > > David Gutierrez wrote: > > > > > WFMU (in the NY/NJ listening area) is having > their annual 2-week > > > pledge drive. They play Joe Frank on Thursday > nights between 7 and > > > 8pm. If you want to support them, you can pledge > online at WFMU.org. > > > Check out their premiums for Joe Frank's show: > > > http://www.wfmu.org/marathon/premiums.php (must > scroll down to > > > Thursday, 7-8pm) > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Joe Frank Mailing List > > joe-frank-list@armory.com > > > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From bluenile at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 17 16:10:28 2004 From: bluenile at sbcglobal.net (Phares Gonzales) Date: Wed Mar 17 15:24:26 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts Message-ID: <008901c40c7d$6c2f6ff0$0201a8c0@smartcarusa.com> Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the people. On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040317/546f911d/attachment.htm From semiote at earthlink.net Wed Mar 17 23:03:14 2004 From: semiote at earthlink.net (Manuel Cabrera Jr.) Date: Wed Mar 17 23:02:37 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts References: <008901c40c7d$6c2f6ff0$0201a8c0@smartcarusa.com> Message-ID: <00ad01c40cb7$160e9760$34e1e8a9@UCLAWLAN> Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between Spalding Gray and Joe Frank? Was he on the show? What episodes? Who did he play? Mandel ----- Original Message ----- From: Phares Gonzales To: joe-frank-list@armory.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:10 PM Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the people. On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Joe Frank Mailing List joe-frank-list@armory.com http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040317/e3449ceb/attachment.htm From innadadadavida at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 04:40:10 2004 From: innadadadavida at yahoo.com (innadadadavida@yahoo.com) Date: Thu Mar 18 04:40:13 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Trying to Make Converts Message-ID: <20040318124010.43162.qmail@web41603.mail.yahoo.com> None that I know of other than they're both monologists who would appeal to similar audiences. I'm very sad for his family. [Q "What do you think about other major monologists and performance artists such as Eric Bogosian and Spaulding Gray?" JF "I think they are very good at what they do. They do what they do and I do what I do." Q "Do you have any sort of dialogue with any of them?" JF "No." ] ----- Original Message ----- From: Manuel Cabrera Jr. Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between Spalding Gray and Joe Frank? Was he on the show? What episodes? Who did he play? Mandel ----- Original Message ----- From: Phares Gonzales Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the people. On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From innadadadavida at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 04:51:58 2004 From: innadadadavida at yahoo.com (innadadadavida@yahoo.com) Date: Thu Mar 18 04:52:00 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Sandra Tsing Loh (was Re: Joe Frank on WFMU) Message-ID: <20040318125158.45260.qmail@web41613.mail.yahoo.com> >funny coincidence? >i just read that Sandra Tsing Loh just got kicked off >the air at KCRW too One of Joe Frank's inner circle once posted here promising details of the circumstances around his being kicked off KCRW; we didn't ever get that, but it wouldn't surprise me if it concerned his 'offensive' content (there was that recording on one of his programs of Seymour chastizing him about his language.) Anyway, Loh's sacking is a minor cause celebre -- their joint statement: Loh's Time piece: One might not want to shed a tear at Howard Stern's troubles, but our retrograde society's kulturkampf claims other victims. "I’ve seen the future and it is John Tesh. . . music. Pre-recorded." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From bluenile at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 18 14:04:04 2004 From: bluenile at sbcglobal.net (Phares Gonzales) Date: Thu Mar 18 13:46:44 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank Converts References: <200403181200.ab23700@deepthought.armory.com> Message-ID: <001c01c40d34$ee72fbf0$0201a8c0@smartcarusa.com> I guess I see a corelation that others do not. I just naturally assumed that if monologists were a persons thing, they would be aware of both artists. I think people who appreciate Spaldings sardonic wit would have no problem understanding or appreciating Joe Franks, thus I stick JF cd's into their hands whenever possible. Secondly, I don't mean to belittle or neglect the tragic death of Spalding Gray. The events leading to his decision to commit suicide were intriguing and I was wondering if anyone had more information about this. Third, it was through this forum that I found out about Spalding's death in the first place. So I don't think that I am the only person who associates these two artists with one another. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:45 PM Subject: joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > Send joe-frank-list mailing list submissions to > joe-frank-list@armory.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > joe-frank-list-request@armory.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > joe-frank-list-owner@armory.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of joe-frank-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Trying to Make Converts (Phares Gonzales) > 2. Re: Trying to Make Converts (Manuel Cabrera Jr.) > 3. Re: Trying to Make Converts (innadadadavida@yahoo.com) > 4. Sandra Tsing Loh (was Re: Joe Frank on WFMU) > (innadadadavida@yahoo.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:10:28 -0800 > From: "Phares Gonzales" > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > To: > Message-ID: <008901c40c7d$6c2f6ff0$0201a8c0@smartcarusa.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the people. > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040317/546f911d/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:03:14 -0800 > From: "Manuel Cabrera Jr." > Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > To: "Joe Frank Mailing List" > Message-ID: <00ad01c40cb7$160e9760$34e1e8a9@UCLAWLAN> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between Spalding Gray and Joe Frank? Was he on the show? What episodes? Who did he play? > > Mandel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phares Gonzales > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:10 PM > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the people. > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040317/e3449ceb/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:40:10 -0800 (PST) > From: "innadadadavida@yahoo.com" > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Trying to Make Converts > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > Message-ID: <20040318124010.43162.qmail@web41603.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > None that I know of other than they're both monologists who would appeal to > similar audiences. > > I'm very sad for his family. > > [Q "What do you think about other major monologists and performance artists > such as Eric Bogosian and Spaulding Gray?" > JF "I think they are very good at what they do. They do what they do and I do > what I do." > Q "Do you have any sort of dialogue with any of them?" > JF "No." > ] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Manuel Cabrera Jr. > > Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between Spalding Gray and > Joe Frank? Was he on the show? What episodes? Who did he play? > > Mandel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phares Gonzales > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many > people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not as > familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made from > the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los Angeles > again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the people. > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences > leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty > knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until > this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:51:58 -0800 (PST) > From: "innadadadavida@yahoo.com" > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Sandra Tsing Loh (was Re: Joe Frank on WFMU) > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > Message-ID: <20040318125158.45260.qmail@web41613.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > >funny coincidence? > >i just read that Sandra Tsing Loh just got kicked off > >the air at KCRW too > > One of Joe Frank's inner circle once posted here promising details of the > circumstances around his being kicked off KCRW; we didn't ever get that, but > it wouldn't surprise me if it concerned his 'offensive' content (there was > that recording on one of his programs of Seymour chastizing him about his > language.) > > Anyway, Loh's sacking is a minor cause celebre -- > their joint statement: > Loh's Time piece: > > > One might not want to shed a tear at Howard Stern's troubles, but our > retrograde society's kulturkampf claims other victims. > > "I've seen the future and it is John Tesh. . . music. Pre-recorded." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > > End of joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > ********************************************* From achavez382 at worldsavings.com Thu Mar 18 16:02:29 2004 From: achavez382 at worldsavings.com (Chavez, Aaron, ISD) Date: Thu Mar 18 14:02:41 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank Converts Message-ID: <9A034938E5A26B40AADACA1584ECA20003F89E86@sa1ems5.worldsavings.com> They both do monologues, but that's all I see. The style, emotional color, sense of humor are different. I prefer Joe's, but I've heard far more of his material. But hey, you can't debate taste. Aaron Chavez -----Original Message----- From: Phares Gonzales [mailto:bluenile@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:04 PM To: joe-frank-list@armory.com Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank Converts I guess I see a corelation that others do not. I just naturally assumed that if monologists were a persons thing, they would be aware of both artists. I think people who appreciate Spaldings sardonic wit would have no problem understanding or appreciating Joe Franks, thus I stick JF cd's into their hands whenever possible. Secondly, I don't mean to belittle or neglect the tragic death of Spalding Gray. The events leading to his decision to commit suicide were intriguing and I was wondering if anyone had more information about this. Third, it was through this forum that I found out about Spalding's death in the first place. So I don't think that I am the only person who associates these two artists with one another. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:45 PM Subject: joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > Send joe-frank-list mailing list submissions to > joe-frank-list@armory.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > joe-frank-list-request@armory.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > joe-frank-list-owner@armory.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of joe-frank-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Trying to Make Converts (Phares Gonzales) > 2. Re: Trying to Make Converts (Manuel Cabrera Jr.) > 3. Re: Trying to Make Converts (innadadadavida@yahoo.com) > 4. Sandra Tsing Loh (was Re: Joe Frank on WFMU) > (innadadadavida@yahoo.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:10:28 -0800 > From: "Phares Gonzales" > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > To: > Message-ID: <008901c40c7d$6c2f6ff0$0201a8c0@smartcarusa.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the people. > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040317/546f 911d/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:03:14 -0800 > From: "Manuel Cabrera Jr." > Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > To: "Joe Frank Mailing List" > Message-ID: <00ad01c40cb7$160e9760$34e1e8a9@UCLAWLAN> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between Spalding Gray and Joe Frank? Was he on the show? What episodes? Who did he play? > > Mandel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phares Gonzales > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:10 PM > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the people. > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- ---- > > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040317/e344 9ceb/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:40:10 -0800 (PST) > From: "innadadadavida@yahoo.com" > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Trying to Make Converts > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > Message-ID: <20040318124010.43162.qmail@web41603.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > None that I know of other than they're both monologists who would appeal to > similar audiences. > > I'm very sad for his family. > > [Q "What do you think about other major monologists and performance artists > such as Eric Bogosian and Spaulding Gray?" > JF "I think they are very good at what they do. They do what they do and I do > what I do." > Q "Do you have any sort of dialogue with any of them?" > JF "No." > ] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Manuel Cabrera Jr. > > Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between Spalding Gray and > Joe Frank? Was he on the show? What episodes? Who did he play? > > Mandel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phares Gonzales > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many > people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not as > familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made from > the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los Angeles > again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the people. > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences > leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty > knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until > this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:51:58 -0800 (PST) > From: "innadadadavida@yahoo.com" > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Sandra Tsing Loh (was Re: Joe Frank on WFMU) > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > Message-ID: <20040318125158.45260.qmail@web41613.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > >funny coincidence? > >i just read that Sandra Tsing Loh just got kicked off > >the air at KCRW too > > One of Joe Frank's inner circle once posted here promising details of the > circumstances around his being kicked off KCRW; we didn't ever get that, but > it wouldn't surprise me if it concerned his 'offensive' content (there was > that recording on one of his programs of Seymour chastizing him about his > language.) > > Anyway, Loh's sacking is a minor cause celebre -- > their joint statement: > Loh's Time piece: > > > One might not want to shed a tear at Howard Stern's troubles, but our > retrograde society's kulturkampf claims other victims. > > "I've seen the future and it is John Tesh. . . music. Pre-recorded." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > > End of joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > ********************************************* _______________________________________________ Joe Frank Mailing List joe-frank-list@armory.com http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list ***************************************************************************** If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender immediately. The contents of this e-mail do not amend any existing disclosures or agreements unless expressly stated. ***************************************************************************** From musgrovem at washpost.com Thu Mar 18 17:15:09 2004 From: musgrovem at washpost.com (Mike Musgrove) Date: Thu Mar 18 14:15:32 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank Converts Message-ID: I have some friends who are fans of Joe Frank's but who don't care much for Gray's work, and vice versa. I enjoy the work of both and can't understand why everybody on the planet doesn't like both of them. So it goes. For what it's worth, I was surprised at the amount of press Gray's disappearance (and the discovery of his body) got. I would say "pleasantly surprised" except for the circumstances. "Chavez, Aaron, ISD" gs.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank Converts joe-frank-list-bounces @armory.com 03/18/2004 05:02 PM Please respond to Joe Frank Mailing List They both do monologues, but that's all I see. The style, emotional color, sense of humor are different. I prefer Joe's, but I've heard far more of his material. But hey, you can't debate taste. Aaron Chavez -----Original Message----- From: Phares Gonzales [mailto:bluenile@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:04 PM To: joe-frank-list@armory.com Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank Converts I guess I see a corelation that others do not. I just naturally assumed that if monologists were a persons thing, they would be aware of both artists. I think people who appreciate Spaldings sardonic wit would have no problem understanding or appreciating Joe Franks, thus I stick JF cd's into their hands whenever possible. Secondly, I don't mean to belittle or neglect the tragic death of Spalding Gray. The events leading to his decision to commit suicide were intriguing and I was wondering if anyone had more information about this. Third, it was through this forum that I found out about Spalding's death in the first place. So I don't think that I am the only person who associates these two artists with one another. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:45 PM Subject: joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > Send joe-frank-list mailing list submissions to > joe-frank-list@armory.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > joe-frank-list-request@armory.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > joe-frank-list-owner@armory.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of joe-frank-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Trying to Make Converts (Phares Gonzales) > 2. Re: Trying to Make Converts (Manuel Cabrera Jr.) > 3. Re: Trying to Make Converts (innadadadavida@yahoo.com) > 4. Sandra Tsing Loh (was Re: Joe Frank on WFMU) > (innadadadavida@yahoo.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:10:28 -0800 > From: "Phares Gonzales" > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > To: > Message-ID: <008901c40c7d$6c2f6ff0$0201a8c0@smartcarusa.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the people. > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040317/546f 911d/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:03:14 -0800 > From: "Manuel Cabrera Jr." > Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > To: "Joe Frank Mailing List" > Message-ID: <00ad01c40cb7$160e9760$34e1e8a9@UCLAWLAN> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between Spalding Gray and Joe Frank? Was he on the show? What episodes? Who did he play? > > Mandel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phares Gonzales > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:10 PM > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the people. > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- ---- > > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040317/e344 9ceb/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:40:10 -0800 (PST) > From: "innadadadavida@yahoo.com" > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Trying to Make Converts > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > Message-ID: <20040318124010.43162.qmail@web41603.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > None that I know of other than they're both monologists who would appeal to > similar audiences. > > I'm very sad for his family. > > [Q "What do you think about other major monologists and performance artists > such as Eric Bogosian and Spaulding Gray?" > JF "I think they are very good at what they do. They do what they do and I do > what I do." > Q "Do you have any sort of dialogue with any of them?" > JF "No." > ] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Manuel Cabrera Jr. > > Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between Spalding Gray and > Joe Frank? Was he on the show? What episodes? Who did he play? > > Mandel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phares Gonzales > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many > people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not as > familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made from > the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los Angeles > again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the people. > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences > leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty > knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until > this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:51:58 -0800 (PST) > From: "innadadadavida@yahoo.com" > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Sandra Tsing Loh (was Re: Joe Frank on WFMU) > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > Message-ID: <20040318125158.45260.qmail@web41613.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > >funny coincidence? > >i just read that Sandra Tsing Loh just got kicked off > >the air at KCRW too > > One of Joe Frank's inner circle once posted here promising details of the > circumstances around his being kicked off KCRW; we didn't ever get that, but > it wouldn't surprise me if it concerned his 'offensive' content (there was > that recording on one of his programs of Seymour chastizing him about his > language.) > > Anyway, Loh's sacking is a minor cause celebre -- > their joint statement: > Loh's Time piece: > > > One might not want to shed a tear at Howard Stern's troubles, but our > retrograde society's kulturkampf claims other victims. > > "I've seen the future and it is John Tesh. . . music. Pre-recorded." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > > End of joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > ********************************************* _______________________________________________ Joe Frank Mailing List joe-frank-list@armory.com http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list ***************************************************************************** If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender immediately. The contents of this e-mail do not amend any existing disclosures or agreements unless expressly stated. ***************************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Joe Frank Mailing List joe-frank-list@armory.com http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list From matthewshepherd at hotmail.com Thu Mar 18 18:01:05 2004 From: matthewshepherd at hotmail.com (Matthew Shepherd) Date: Thu Mar 18 15:01:06 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank Converts References: <200403181200.ab23700@deepthought.armory.com> <001c01c40d34$ee72fbf0$0201a8c0@smartcarusa.com> Message-ID: You're not alone on the correlation. I've often held mental comparisons between the two (but not Bognosian at all, oddly enough). The sardonic wit is one thing, but also the confessional style of their work -- granted, Joe's is a little more fictional than Gray's was -- seemed to strike the same chord in me. There is an abundance of material on the last few and highly unfortunate years of Gray's life. Essentially, he had a horrific car accident in Ireland a few years ago, and even after recovering he seemed to never regain his equilibrium -- that, and other events, seemed to tip the stable/depressed balance that made his mind so intriguing firmly into the depressive side, and from there it was a downward slide, a rally, and a final plunge. Lots of other factors involved as well, of course. But that seems to have been it in broad strokes. A sad end to such a gifted life. - Matt Shepherd http://www.man-man.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phares Gonzales" To: Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:04 PM Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank Converts > I guess I see a corelation that others do not. I just naturally assumed that > if monologists were a persons thing, they would be aware of both artists. I > think people who appreciate Spaldings sardonic wit would have no problem > understanding or appreciating Joe Franks, thus I stick JF cd's into their > hands whenever possible. > > Secondly, I don't mean to belittle or neglect the tragic death of Spalding > Gray. The events leading to his decision to commit suicide were intriguing > and I was wondering if anyone had more information about this. > > Third, it was through this forum that I found out about Spalding's death in > the first place. So I don't think that I am the only person who associates > these two artists with one another. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:45 PM > Subject: joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > > > > Send joe-frank-list mailing list submissions to > > joe-frank-list@armory.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > joe-frank-list-request@armory.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > joe-frank-list-owner@armory.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of joe-frank-list digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Trying to Make Converts (Phares Gonzales) > > 2. Re: Trying to Make Converts (Manuel Cabrera Jr.) > > 3. Re: Trying to Make Converts (innadadadavida@yahoo.com) > > 4. Sandra Tsing Loh (was Re: Joe Frank on WFMU) > > (innadadadavida@yahoo.com) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:10:28 -0800 > > From: "Phares Gonzales" > > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > > To: > > Message-ID: <008901c40c7d$6c2f6ff0$0201a8c0@smartcarusa.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how many > people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not > as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made > from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los > Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the > people. > > > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences > leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty > knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until > this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040317/546f911d/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:03:14 -0800 > > From: "Manuel Cabrera Jr." > > Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > > To: "Joe Frank Mailing List" > > Message-ID: <00ad01c40cb7$160e9760$34e1e8a9@UCLAWLAN> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between Spalding Gray > and Joe Frank? Was he on the show? What episodes? Who did he play? > > > > Mandel > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Phares Gonzales > > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:10 PM > > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > > > > > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how > many people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are > not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I > made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in > Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to > the people. > > > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences > leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty > knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it until > this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Joe Frank Mailing List > > joe-frank-list@armory.com > > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040317/e3449ceb/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:40:10 -0800 (PST) > > From: "innadadadavida@yahoo.com" > > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Trying to Make Converts > > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > > Message-ID: <20040318124010.43162.qmail@web41603.mail.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > None that I know of other than they're both monologists who would appeal > to > > similar audiences. > > > > I'm very sad for his family. > > > > [Q "What do you think about other major monologists and performance > artists > > such as Eric Bogosian and Spaulding Gray?" > > JF "I think they are very good at what they do. They do what they do and I > do > > what I do." > > Q "Do you have any sort of dialogue with any of them?" > > JF "No." > > ] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Manuel Cabrera Jr. > > > > Forgive my ignorance, but what is the connection between Spalding Gray and > > Joe Frank? Was he on the show? What episodes? Who did he play? > > > > Mandel > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Phares Gonzales > > > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a chance to see just how > many > > people were followers of his work. I am surprised to see that they are not > as > > familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them copies of Joe that I made > from > > the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a broader interest in Los > Angeles > > again. I think we need to do more to get the word of Joe out to the > people. > > > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar with the incidences > > leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world seems a little more empty > > knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk and talk about it > until > > this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:51:58 -0800 (PST) > > From: "innadadadavida@yahoo.com" > > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Sandra Tsing Loh (was Re: Joe Frank on WFMU) > > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > > Message-ID: <20040318125158.45260.qmail@web41613.mail.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > >funny coincidence? > > >i just read that Sandra Tsing Loh just got kicked off > > >the air at KCRW too > > > > One of Joe Frank's inner circle once posted here promising details of the > > circumstances around his being kicked off KCRW; we didn't ever get that, > but > > it wouldn't surprise me if it concerned his 'offensive' content (there was > > that recording on one of his programs of Seymour chastizing him about his > > language.) > > > > Anyway, Loh's sacking is a minor cause celebre -- > > their joint statement: > > Loh's Time piece: > > > > > > One might not want to shed a tear at Howard Stern's troubles, but our > > retrograde society's kulturkampf claims other victims. > > > > "I've seen the future and it is John Tesh. . . music. Pre-recorded." > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Joe Frank Mailing List > > joe-frank-list@armory.com > > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > > > > > End of joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > > ********************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > From mrapacke at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 16:56:41 2004 From: mrapacke at yahoo.com (mary rapacke) Date: Thu Mar 18 16:56:48 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Spalding Gray In-Reply-To: <200403181415.ac16297@deepthought.armory.com> Message-ID: <20040319005641.3961.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> I am not going to claim to be very knowledgeable about either Spalding Gray or Joe Frank, just am a fan of both. And if I'm repeating anything anyone has said, I apologize. Spalding came out of the theatre world, he was one of the founding members of The Wooster Group, along with Willem DaFoe and his partner Elizabeth LeCompte. And Spalding too had some film roles. I think I remember seeing him once as host on Saturday Night Live. I think though that he's most known for his monologues and performances. My opinion is that he was one of a kind. I see similarities to Eric Bogosian and yes Joe Frank, but all 3 are distinctive in their own way. Having lost a very dear friend to suicide, I can only imagine what was going through his head when he climbed up on the rail of the Staten Island Ferry and plunged to his death. Is it worse for the family to have to wait months to find out their loved one truly did kill himself? Or is it better to discover the truth of the tragedy immediately. I don't know. --- joe-frank-list-request@armory.com wrote: > Send joe-frank-list mailing list submissions to > joe-frank-list@armory.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > joe-frank-list-request@armory.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > joe-frank-list-owner@armory.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of joe-frank-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Joe Frank Converts (Phares Gonzales) > 2. RE: Re: Joe Frank Converts (Chavez, Aaron, > ISD) > 3. RE: Re: Joe Frank Converts (Mike Musgrove) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:04:04 -0800 > From: "Phares Gonzales" > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank Converts > To: > Message-ID: > <001c01c40d34$ee72fbf0$0201a8c0@smartcarusa.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I guess I see a corelation that others do not. I > just naturally assumed that > if monologists were a persons thing, they would be > aware of both artists. I > think people who appreciate Spaldings sardonic wit > would have no problem > understanding or appreciating Joe Franks, thus I > stick JF cd's into their > hands whenever possible. > > Secondly, I don't mean to belittle or neglect the > tragic death of Spalding > Gray. The events leading to his decision to commit > suicide were intriguing > and I was wondering if anyone had more information > about this. > > Third, it was through this forum that I found out > about Spalding's death in > the first place. So I don't think that I am the only > person who associates > these two artists with one another. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:45 PM > Subject: joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > > > > Send joe-frank-list mailing list submissions to > > joe-frank-list@armory.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide > Web, visit > > > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > > joe-frank-list-request@armory.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > joe-frank-list-owner@armory.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of joe-frank-list digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Trying to Make Converts (Phares Gonzales) > > 2. Re: Trying to Make Converts (Manuel Cabrera > Jr.) > > 3. Re: Trying to Make Converts > (innadadadavida@yahoo.com) > > 4. Sandra Tsing Loh (was Re: Joe Frank on WFMU) > > (innadadadavida@yahoo.com) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:10:28 -0800 > > From: "Phares Gonzales" > > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make Converts > > To: > > Message-ID: > <008901c40c7d$6c2f6ff0$0201a8c0@smartcarusa.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a > chance to see just how many > people were followers of his work. I am surprised to > see that they are not > as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them > copies of Joe that I made > from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate a > broader interest in Los > Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get the > word of Joe out to the > people. > > > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar > with the incidences > leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world > seems a little more empty > knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk > and talk about it until > this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040317/546f911d/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:03:14 -0800 > > From: "Manuel Cabrera Jr." > > Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make > Converts > > To: "Joe Frank Mailing List" > > > Message-ID: > <00ad01c40cb7$160e9760$34e1e8a9@UCLAWLAN> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Forgive my ignorance, but what is the > connection between Spalding Gray > and Joe Frank? Was he on the show? What episodes? > Who did he play? > > > > > Mandel > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Phares Gonzales > > To: joe-frank-list@armory.com > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:10 PM > > Subject: [joe-frank-list] Trying to Make > Converts > > > > > > Since the death of Spalding Gray, I have had a > chance to see just how > many people were followers of his work. I am > surprised to see that they are > not as familiar with Joe's works. I am loaning them > copies of Joe that I > made from the radio since 1989 and hope to generate > a broader interest in > Los Angeles again. I think we need to do more to get > the word of Joe out to > the people. > > > > On the subject of Spalding Gray, who is familiar > with the incidences > leading up to his suicide? I feel like the world > seems a little more empty > knowing that he isn't musing over it. I want to talk > and talk about it until > this feeling at the pit of my stomache goes away. > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Joe Frank Mailing List > > joe-frank-list@armory.com > > > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040317/e3449ceb/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com From KJHISLIP at aol.com Fri Mar 19 22:02:35 2004 From: KJHISLIP at aol.com (KJHISLIP@aol.com) Date: Fri Mar 19 19:02:52 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Joe Frank/Larry Block Feud Message-ID: <7a.52cd2476.2d8d0e4b@aol.com> Hey folks: I heard the live call-in show in support of WFMU's marathon last night. Larry Block called in under a pseudonym, and accused Joe Frank of abandoning him and owing him money. Frank says that Block is mentally unstable and has tried all sorts of things to destroy him. It got pretty ugly. So, I'm hoping that this was some sort of prank. Does anyone know if they're truly antagonistic? Kyle From boojum at charter.net Fri Mar 19 19:06:44 2004 From: boojum at charter.net (Sandy Noyes) Date: Fri Mar 19 19:08:47 2004 Subject: [inbox] [joe-frank-list] Joe Frank/Larry Block Feud In-Reply-To: <7a.52cd2476.2d8d0e4b@aol.com> Message-ID: <200403200306.i2K36eDt087555@mxsf03.cluster1.charter.net> On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:02:35 EST, KJHISLIP@aol.com wrote: >Larry Block called in under a pseudonym, and accused Joe Frank of abandoning him >and owing him money. That type of accusation occurs in a show or two, also. "Stand for what you believe in; compromise on the rest." Hobbs Sandy Noyes 3 Mitscher Road #2 Astoria, OR 97103 boojum@escapees.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040319/3d7c2a0e/attachment.htm From BILLMILOSZ at aol.com Sat Mar 20 00:37:02 2004 From: BILLMILOSZ at aol.com (BILLMILOSZ@aol.com) Date: Fri Mar 19 21:37:51 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Joe Frank/Larry Block Feud Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/2004 9:03:50 PM Central Standard Time, KJHISLIP@aol.com writes: > So, I'm hoping that this was some sort of prank. Does anyone know if > they're > truly antagonistic? > Joe Frank is known for doing things on the radio where there's ambiguity about it being real or part of "the art." That ambiguity is a fascinating aspect of theater or performance: what is real, and what is an act? I didn't hear the WFMU thing in question, but I'm willing to side with those who thought it was part of the performance. Larry Block IS an actor, after all. 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From: LBlockD@aol.com Subject: Fwd: The Joe Frank/Larry Block Battle Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 08:06:55 EST Size: 4539 Url: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040320/d474e694/attachment.eml From BILLMILOSZ at aol.com Sun Mar 21 02:52:54 2004 From: BILLMILOSZ at aol.com (BILLMILOSZ@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 20 23:53:03 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Message from Lary Block re: The Joe Frank/Larry Block Battle Message-ID: <1e.24dddc25.2d8ea3d6@aol.com> Larry Block (Joe Frank colleague) is having problems trying to send this message to all of the folks on the Joe Frank listserv. He has apparently been sending this message to the list but it's not going out, and he has asked me to help by forwarding this email to the list. I think perhaps Mr. Block is just having a little trouble with his computer; in any event I am happy to forward this for Mr. Block. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Return-path: From: LBlockD@aol.com Full-name: LBlockD (Larry Block) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 08:06:55 EST Subject: Fwd: The Joe Frank/Larry Block Battle Greetings: A subscriber recently reported that he heard what sounded like an angry confrontation between Joe Frank and Larry Block (a series regular) on a pledge drive call-in segment broadcast from radio station FMU in New Jersey. It seems that the radio-verite style had a little too much verite for some who listened, and perhaps even for the hostess of the segment, who rather abruptly ended the encounter. Ofcourse, the whole verbal altercation - in which Larry Block accused Joe Frank of owing him back pay and of being impossible to reach by any means short of calling in to a pledge drive - was planned and had been recently used as the basis for an improvosation for a pledge drive for KPFA in San Francisco. The FMU hostess apparently thought that Larry Block was a dangerous character and that Joe had to be shielded. This absurd action on her part has contributed to the growing perception that Larry Block has gone over the edge, which I can assure any loyal fans is not the case. I speak with some authority, I think, since I am, in fact, Larry Block. All the best from the edge. Larry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040321/8f12c9be/attachment.htm From achavez382 at worldsavings.com Mon Mar 22 11:03:09 2004 From: achavez382 at worldsavings.com (Chavez, Aaron, ISD) Date: Mon Mar 22 09:03:16 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Message from Lary Block re: The Joe Frank/LarryBlock Battle Message-ID: <9A034938E5A26B40AADACA1584ECA20003FF6D66@sa1ems5.worldsavings.com> We've been had, or at least I have. "A little too verite" (from Larry's message), uh huh. I'm embarrassed for even worrying about whether or not it was real. Joe and Larry kicked my ass. Shee-it, I feel privileged. Aaron Chavez Aka coyoteafternoon -----Original Message----- From: BILLMILOSZ@aol.com [mailto:BILLMILOSZ@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 1:53 AM To: joe-frank-list@armory.com Subject: [joe-frank-list] Message from Lary Block re: The Joe Frank/LarryBlock Battle Larry Block (Joe Frank colleague) is having problems trying to send this message to all of the folks on the Joe Frank listserv. He has apparently been sending this message to the list but it's not going out, and he has asked me to help by forwarding this email to the list. I think perhaps Mr. Block is just having a little trouble with his computer; in any event I am happy to forward this for Mr. Block. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Return-path: From: LBlockD@aol.com Full-name: LBlockD (Larry Block) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 08:06:55 EST Subject: Fwd: The Joe Frank/Larry Block Battle Greetings: A subscriber recently reported that he heard what sounded like an angry confrontation between Joe Frank and Larry Block (a series regular) on a pledge drive call-in segment broadcast from radio station FMU in New Jersey. It seems that the radio-verite style had a little too much verite for some who listened, and perhaps even for the hostess of the segment, who rather abruptly ended the encounter. Ofcourse, the whole verbal altercation - in which Larry Block accused Joe Frank of owing him back pay and of being impossible to reach by any means short of calling in to a pledge drive - was planned and had been recently used as the basis for an improvosation for a pledge drive for KPFA in San Francisco. The FMU hostess apparently thought that Larry Block was a dangerous character and that Joe had to be shielded. This absurd action on her part has contributed to the growing perception that Larry Block has gone over the edge, which I can assure any loyal fans is not the case. I speak with some authority, I think, since I am, in fact, Larry Block. All the best from the edge. Larry ***************************************************************************** If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender immediately. The contents of this e-mail do not amend any existing disclosures or agreements unless expressly stated. ***************************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040322/c7d76b50/attachment.htm From achavez382 at worldsavings.com Mon Mar 22 11:09:12 2004 From: achavez382 at worldsavings.com (Chavez, Aaron, ISD) Date: Mon Mar 22 09:11:45 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank on WFMU Message-ID: <9A034938E5A26B40AADACA1584ECA20003FF6D8C@sa1ems5.worldsavings.com> Follow-up to this question: Did anyone record this. Respond to this offline if you prefer. Aaron Chavez Achavez382@worldsavings.com OR Achavez382@yahoo.com -----Original Message----- From: B. Thong [mailto:uhohjf@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:45 AM To: Joe Frank Mailing List Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank on WFMU Did anyone record it? PS: Joe's gonna be doing a live performance with Sandra Tsing Loh. Check his website. Bob Seattle --- David Gutierrez wrote: > Fellow Frankophiles, > As a followup to this email, I just wanted to let everyone know that Joe > Frank is live on the air taking calls as well during this WFMU pledge > drive. If you don't get this email until it is too late, I believe he > will be on again next Thursday 7pm - 8pm Eastern Time. There is a > special number for those who would like to speak to Joe to ask questions > on-air: 201-209-9368 > > Dave > > David Gutierrez wrote: > > > WFMU (in the NY/NJ listening area) is having their annual 2-week > > pledge drive. They play Joe Frank on Thursday nights between 7 and > > 8pm. If you want to support them, you can pledge online at WFMU.org. > > Check out their premiums for Joe Frank's show: > > http://www.wfmu.org/marathon/premiums.php (must scroll down to > > Thursday, 7-8pm) > > > > Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Joe Frank Mailing List joe-frank-list@armory.com http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list ***************************************************************************** If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender immediately. The contents of this e-mail do not amend any existing disclosures or agreements unless expressly stated. ***************************************************************************** From KJHISLIP at aol.com Mon Mar 22 14:01:12 2004 From: KJHISLIP at aol.com (KJHISLIP@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 22 12:32:49 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank on WFMU Message-ID: <12e.3d79f8c7.2d9091f8@aol.com> I didn't record this, however, the radio station, WFMU, archives everything. Go to their website WFMU.org and do some digging around- I'm sure you'll find a streaming archive link (windows media player or RealPlayer). Enjoy! And support WFMU.... it's truly and consistently great. thanks Kyle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040322/0d9b8f99/attachment.htm From bluenile at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 22 14:40:19 2004 From: bluenile at sbcglobal.net (Phares Gonzales) Date: Mon Mar 22 13:54:36 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Larry Block References: <200403221229.ab00569@deepthought.armory.com> Message-ID: <003201c4105e$a7de9910$0201a8c0@smartcarusa.com> Wish I had heard it, sounds like an episode from 2001 when he was comparing Joe unfavorably to Harry Shear, not sure how his name is spelled. From contact at joefrank.com Mon Mar 22 14:21:22 2004 From: contact at joefrank.com (contact@joefrank.com) Date: Mon Mar 22 15:32:10 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] KPFA and WFMU pledge drives with Joe Message-ID: <1079994082.405f66e288c09@augustus.dnsback.com> Dear Frankophiles: In a few days, you can hear all three uncut pledge drive shows streamed on Joe's web site. We'll be sending out the next JF Newsletter announcing when the streams are available (and other exciting news) soon. Sign up at http://joefrank.com Best, The Joe Frank Web Team ---------------------- From dave at 3113.com Mon Mar 22 17:06:32 2004 From: dave at 3113.com (David Gutierrez) Date: Mon Mar 22 15:40:20 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Joe Frank on WFMU Message-ID: Unfortunately, WFMU doesn't archive Joe's shows -- they just point to the http://www.joefrank.com page under their "archive" link on the page for his show. Perhaps someone on this list works at FMU or knows someone there? Dave At Monday, 22 March 2004, you wrote: >I didn't record this, however, the radio station, WFMU, archives everything. Go to their website WFMU.org and do some digging around- I'm sure you'll find a streaming archive link (windows media player or RealPlayer). > >Enjoy! And support WFMU.... it's truly and consistently great. > >thanks Kyle > >_______________________________________________ >Joe Frank Mailing List >joe-frank-list@armory.com >http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > =================================================================== EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ =================================================================== From sehnsee at yahoo.com Mon Mar 22 14:06:44 2004 From: sehnsee at yahoo.com (sensta) Date: Mon Mar 22 15:53:30 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Message from Lary Block re: The Joe Frank/LarryBlock Battle In-Reply-To: <9A034938E5A26B40AADACA1584ECA20003FF6D66@sa1ems5.worldsavings.com> Message-ID: <20040322220644.22199.qmail@span.corp.yahoo.com> Where/When can I find Joe Frank in SF area??? ===== "Are we not living in a dream state , when all we percieve to be real is in actuality a temporary state of thought which is eternally passing us by ? Do you exist , do I exist ? " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From stanford at localblack.com Mon Mar 22 15:54:26 2004 From: stanford at localblack.com (Robert W. Stanford President LocalBlack.Com) Date: Mon Mar 22 15:55:48 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Message from Lary Block re: The JoeFrank/LarryBlock Battle In-Reply-To: <20040322220644.22199.qmail@span.corp.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah, I would be down with finding out about that! Your's in the struggle, Robert W. Stanford President http://www.localblack.com PO Box 576684 Modesto, CA 95350 Voice: (209) 544-1983 Fax: (413) 208-5848 -----Original Message----- From: joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com [mailto:joe-frank-list-bounces@armory.com]On Behalf Of sensta Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:07 PM To: Joe Frank Mailing List Subject: RE: [joe-frank-list] Message from Lary Block re: The JoeFrank/LarryBlock Battle Where/When can I find Joe Frank in SF area??? ===== "Are we not living in a dream state , when all we percieve to be real is in actuality a temporary state of thought which is eternally passing us by ? Do you exist , do I exist ? " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html _______________________________________________ Joe Frank Mailing List joe-frank-list@armory.com http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list From joeRoymeo at brokenoffcarantenna.com Mon Mar 22 19:03:24 2004 From: joeRoymeo at brokenoffcarantenna.com (joeRoymeo@brokenoffcarantenna.com) Date: Mon Mar 22 16:11:29 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Spalding Gray In-Reply-To: <20040322220644.22199.qmail@span.corp.yahoo.com> References: <9A034938E5A26B40AADACA1584ECA20003FF6D66@sa1ems5.worldsavings.com> <20040322220644.22199.qmail@span.corp.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040322190125.01ce9478@mail.brokenoffcarantenna.com> Spalding Grey is discussed in today's Fresh Air with Terry Gross on NPR. http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml?display=day&todayDate=03/22/2004 roymeo ----------- Roy Crisman Macromedia Director Programmer, Lingo Guru, Multimedia Producer Greater Rochester Macromedia User Group (GRMMUG.org) Coordinator 277 N. Goodman St. Rochester, NY 14607-1162 (585)473-3492 home roymeo(AT)brokenoffcarantenna.com From bluenile at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 23 11:12:02 2004 From: bluenile at sbcglobal.net (Phares Gonzales) Date: Tue Mar 23 10:07:56 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 References: <200403221229.ab00569@deepthought.armory.com> Message-ID: <002101c4110a$b995bd80$0201a8c0@smartcarusa.com> News to report: Joe Frank will be doing his show live at the Evidence Room April 9th near downtown LA, on Beverly. Have not found out ticket prices. Just thought you should know. - Jack Knife From Peisithanatos at aol.com Tue Mar 23 15:50:09 2004 From: Peisithanatos at aol.com (Peisithanatos@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 23 12:50:13 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 Message-ID: <59.7ac953e.2d91fd01@aol.com> when is Joe going to come back to Chicago? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040323/5728b96f/attachment.htm From achavez382 at worldsavings.com Tue Mar 23 16:10:10 2004 From: achavez382 at worldsavings.com (Chavez, Aaron, ISD) Date: Tue Mar 23 14:10:16 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Message from Lary Block re: The Joe Frank/LarryBlock Battle Message-ID: <9A034938E5A26B40AADACA1584ECA20004064799@sa1ems5.worldsavings.com> KPFA 94.1 in Berkeley. They have a great signal. Sunday nights at 7pm, I believe. http://www.kpfa.org Aaron Chavez Enterprise Information Systems 210-543-5982 v 210-203-2264 p -----Original Message----- From: sensta [mailto:sehnsee@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 4:07 PM To: Joe Frank Mailing List Subject: RE: [joe-frank-list] Message from Lary Block re: The Joe Frank/LarryBlock Battle Where/When can I find Joe Frank in SF area??? ===== "Are we not living in a dream state , when all we percieve to be real is in actuality a temporary state of thought which is eternally passing us by ? Do you exist , do I exist ? " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html _______________________________________________ Joe Frank Mailing List joe-frank-list@armory.com http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list ***************************************************************************** If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender immediately. The contents of this e-mail do not amend any existing disclosures or agreements unless expressly stated. ***************************************************************************** From BILLMILOSZ at aol.com Tue Mar 23 18:20:44 2004 From: BILLMILOSZ at aol.com (BILLMILOSZ@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 23 15:20:48 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 Message-ID: In a message dated 3/23/2004 2:50:58 PM Central Standard Time, Peisithanatos@aol.com writes: > when is Joe going to come back to Chicago? I heard he is coming for the Third Coast International Audio Festival October 28 2004. http://www.thirdcoastfestival.org/pages/conference.html has some info on things, but no details of who's coming here or what. But I heard there is talk of a Joe Frank performance or a conference or an installation of some sort maybe- a room with tapes of his work visitors could listen to, somethng like that. Or maybe a room where visitors could listen to a bunch of Third Coast audio stuff, including Joe Frank. FYI the Third Coast site has lots of interesting audio / radio streams, there's people out there doing innovative stuff. Different from the sort of monolog / abstract narrative stuff Joe does, but interesting nonetheless. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040323/cadb247a/attachment.htm From contact at joefrank.com Tue Mar 23 16:44:51 2004 From: contact at joefrank.com (contact@joefrank.com) Date: Tue Mar 23 16:44:59 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Joe Frank Newsletter #4 Message-ID: <1080089091.4060da03c39c7@augustus.dnsback.com> (The Joe Frank Mailing List is receiving this before it goes out to general public) Joe Frank Newsletter No. 4 23 March 2004 Greetings! It's been busier than expected here the past few weeks. Thanks to everyone who volunteered to beta test the new site, however, it's (sigh) not ready. We hadn't anticipated redesigning a major portion of the site now underway. (We know who you are and we will be in touch when the site's ready to undergo testing.) Live Performances! April 9th: The Evidence Room, Los Angeles, California Joe and Sandra Tsing Low will perform pieces based on their experiences with the General Manager of KCRW, Ruth Seymour. For tickets: http://www.evidenceroom.com/main.htm or call 213-381-7118 May 15th: Natural History Museum, Los Angeles, California Joe will be part of the Museum's exhibit: LA / Light / Motion / Dreams. More information coming soon. See: http://www.nhm.org/losangeles/html/brief.html Coming in October: Joe Frank will perform live in Chicago at the International Third Coast Audio Festival 2004. More information on the way. New On the Air! Listen to Joe Frank programs five nights a week on XM Radio! Tune in to Channel 163, Sonic Theater, Tuesday through Saturday at 9:00pm Pacific, 12:00 midnight Eastern. For information: http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=163 Online March 27th: KPFA and WFMU had Joe on the telephone to receive calls from listeners during the stations' pledge drives. Listen to the entire streams online. The streams will be posted here: http://joefrank.com/onair.html PS! What are your favorite Joe Frank stories? Would you like to see them expanded and inlcuded in a new book by Joe? Send suggestions to marc@joefrank.com Best, The Joe Frank Team From Peisithanatos at aol.com Thu Mar 25 02:06:21 2004 From: Peisithanatos at aol.com (Peisithanatos@aol.com) Date: Wed Mar 24 23:06:29 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: joe-frank-list Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 Message-ID: <1ea.1c2ecb8a.2d93deed@aol.com> will tickets for the third coast performance be available to the general public? & if so, any idea on when they will be available? i missed it last year and i was so disappointed... but now heres my chance! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040325/5287a34b/attachment.htm From BillMilosz at aol.com Thu Mar 25 14:30:43 2004 From: BillMilosz at aol.com (BillMilosz@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 25 11:30:49 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Third Coast Message-ID: <77B39B01.74E5C28E.0AC03AB1@aol.com> In reply to: 'will tickets for the third coast performance be available to the general public? & if so, any idea on when they will be available? i missed it last year and i was so disappointed... but now heres my chance!' ++++++++++++++++ All I know so far is I've heard some talk that Joe Frank is coming ehre for the next Third Coast festival, don't know if that's confirmed or what. OK, assuming he's going to be here for the festival, then we need to know if he's going to do a PERFORMANCE or even if he's going to address the conferees. We don't know any of this, it's all speculation. Perhaps someone could call the Third Coast people and ask. If you're going to attend the Third Coast conference, keep in mind that it's about audio and radio "art" and documentary as a whole, not just about Joe Frank. Last year, it cost $235 to attend. Attendence was limited to 250 people on a first-come, first-serve basis. See their web site for info on how last year's thing went: http://www.thirdcoastfestival.org/pages/extras/2003_conference/conference2003.html Last year they had one "public" event - the Third Coast Audio Cabaret, an evening of presentations of audio work by Gregory Whitehead and Anna Fritz (no Joe Frank) - the tickets for this were $15. While Joe was not part of the 2003 Third Coast Festival Audio Cabaret, he WAS present to receive an award and gave a little acceptance speech; they also played a little of his KCRW stuff. In order to have seen this 30 minutes of Joe you would have had to pay the $235 which gets you into all of the conference events including the awards ceremony. Now, MAYBE they are planning to have Joe Frank in the Third Coast Festival Audio Cabaret public presentation for 2004. But who knows? From contact at joefrank.com Thu Mar 25 14:47:06 2004 From: contact at joefrank.com (contact@joefrank.com) Date: Thu Mar 25 14:47:13 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Third Coast In-Reply-To: <77B39B01.74E5C28E.0AC03AB1@aol.com> References: <77B39B01.74E5C28E.0AC03AB1@aol.com> Message-ID: <1080254826.4063616ae315d@augustus.dnsback.com> Joe's performance will be part of the Audio Caberet. Feel free to call Third Coast 2004 Festival preparations to inquire. If they know the show may be sold out (the venue seats just around 250, we think), perhaps they will ask Joe to perform more than one night. By the way, Joe is working on new material blended with existing material for this performance Best, The Joe Frank Web Team ---------------------- Quoting BillMilosz@aol.com: > In reply to: 'will tickets for the third coast performance be available to > the general public? > & if so, any idea on when they will be available? > i missed it last year and i was so disappointed... but now heres my chance!' > > ++++++++++++++++ > > All I know so far is I've heard some talk that Joe Frank is coming ehre for > the next Third Coast festival, don't know if that's confirmed or what. OK, > assuming he's going to be here for the festival, then we need to know if he's > going to do a PERFORMANCE or even if he's going to address the conferees. We > don't know any of this, it's all speculation. Perhaps someone could call the > Third Coast people and ask. > > If you're going to attend the Third Coast conference, keep in mind that it's > about audio and radio "art" and documentary as a whole, not just about Joe > Frank. Last year, it cost $235 to attend. Attendence was limited to 250 > people on a first-come, first-serve basis. See their web site for info on how > last year's thing went: > http://www.thirdcoastfestival.org/pages/extras/2003_conference/conference2003.html > > Last year they had one "public" event - the Third Coast Audio Cabaret, an > evening of presentations of audio work by Gregory Whitehead and Anna Fritz > (no Joe Frank) - the tickets for this were $15. > > While Joe was not part of the 2003 Third Coast Festival Audio Cabaret, he WAS > present to receive an award and gave a little acceptance speech; they also > played a little of his KCRW stuff. In order to have seen this 30 minutes of > Joe you would have had to pay the $235 which gets you into all of the > conference events including the awards ceremony. > > Now, MAYBE they are planning to have Joe Frank in the Third Coast Festival > Audio Cabaret public presentation for 2004. But who knows? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > From achavez382 at worldsavings.com Fri Mar 26 08:56:28 2004 From: achavez382 at worldsavings.com (Chavez, Aaron, ISD) Date: Fri Mar 26 06:56:39 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Third Coast Message-ID: <9A034938E5A26B40AADACA1584ECA20004149311@sa1ems5.worldsavings.com> Where is 'here'? Chicago? Aaron Chavez Enterprise Information Systems 210-543-5982 v 210-203-2264 p -----Original Message----- From: contact@joefrank.com [mailto:contact@joefrank.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:47 PM To: Joe Frank Mailing List Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] Re: Third Coast Joe's performance will be part of the Audio Caberet. Feel free to call Third Coast 2004 Festival preparations to inquire. If they know the show may be sold out (the venue seats just around 250, we think), perhaps they will ask Joe to perform more than one night. By the way, Joe is working on new material blended with existing material for this performance Best, The Joe Frank Web Team ---------------------- Quoting BillMilosz@aol.com: > In reply to: 'will tickets for the third coast performance be available to > the general public? > & if so, any idea on when they will be available? > i missed it last year and i was so disappointed... but now heres my chance!' > > ++++++++++++++++ > > All I know so far is I've heard some talk that Joe Frank is coming ehre for > the next Third Coast festival, don't know if that's confirmed or what. OK, > assuming he's going to be here for the festival, then we need to know if he's > going to do a PERFORMANCE or even if he's going to address the conferees. We > don't know any of this, it's all speculation. Perhaps someone could call the > Third Coast people and ask. > > If you're going to attend the Third Coast conference, keep in mind that it's > about audio and radio "art" and documentary as a whole, not just about Joe > Frank. Last year, it cost $235 to attend. Attendence was limited to 250 > people on a first-come, first-serve basis. See their web site for info on how > last year's thing went: > http://www.thirdcoastfestival.org/pages/extras/2003_conference/conferenc e2003.html > > Last year they had one "public" event - the Third Coast Audio Cabaret, an > evening of presentations of audio work by Gregory Whitehead and Anna Fritz > (no Joe Frank) - the tickets for this were $15. > > While Joe was not part of the 2003 Third Coast Festival Audio Cabaret, he WAS > present to receive an award and gave a little acceptance speech; they also > played a little of his KCRW stuff. In order to have seen this 30 minutes of > Joe you would have had to pay the $235 which gets you into all of the > conference events including the awards ceremony. > > Now, MAYBE they are planning to have Joe Frank in the Third Coast Festival > Audio Cabaret public presentation for 2004. But who knows? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > _______________________________________________ Joe Frank Mailing List joe-frank-list@armory.com http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list ***************************************************************************** If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender immediately. The contents of this e-mail do not amend any existing disclosures or agreements unless expressly stated. ***************************************************************************** From achavez382 at worldsavings.com Fri Mar 26 08:59:10 2004 From: achavez382 at worldsavings.com (Chavez, Aaron, ISD) Date: Fri Mar 26 06:59:19 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Re: Third Coast Message-ID: <9A034938E5A26B40AADACA1584ECA20004149324@sa1ems5.worldsavings.com> Never mind, I just picked up the thread in the wrong place. Aaron Chavez Enterprise Information Systems 210-543-5982 v 210-203-2264 p -----Original Message----- From: contact@joefrank.com [mailto:contact@joefrank.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:47 PM To: Joe Frank Mailing List Subject: Re: [joe-frank-list] Re: Third Coast Joe's performance will be part of the Audio Caberet. Feel free to call Third Coast 2004 Festival preparations to inquire. If they know the show may be sold out (the venue seats just around 250, we think), perhaps they will ask Joe to perform more than one night. By the way, Joe is working on new material blended with existing material for this performance Best, The Joe Frank Web Team ---------------------- Quoting BillMilosz@aol.com: > In reply to: 'will tickets for the third coast performance be available to > the general public? > & if so, any idea on when they will be available? > i missed it last year and i was so disappointed... but now heres my chance!' > > ++++++++++++++++ > > All I know so far is I've heard some talk that Joe Frank is coming ehre for > the next Third Coast festival, don't know if that's confirmed or what. OK, > assuming he's going to be here for the festival, then we need to know if he's > going to do a PERFORMANCE or even if he's going to address the conferees. We > don't know any of this, it's all speculation. Perhaps someone could call the > Third Coast people and ask. > > If you're going to attend the Third Coast conference, keep in mind that it's > about audio and radio "art" and documentary as a whole, not just about Joe > Frank. Last year, it cost $235 to attend. Attendence was limited to 250 > people on a first-come, first-serve basis. See their web site for info on how > last year's thing went: > http://www.thirdcoastfestival.org/pages/extras/2003_conference/conferenc e2003.html > > Last year they had one "public" event - the Third Coast Audio Cabaret, an > evening of presentations of audio work by Gregory Whitehead and Anna Fritz > (no Joe Frank) - the tickets for this were $15. > > While Joe was not part of the 2003 Third Coast Festival Audio Cabaret, he WAS > present to receive an award and gave a little acceptance speech; they also > played a little of his KCRW stuff. In order to have seen this 30 minutes of > Joe you would have had to pay the $235 which gets you into all of the > conference events including the awards ceremony. > > Now, MAYBE they are planning to have Joe Frank in the Third Coast Festival > Audio Cabaret public presentation for 2004. But who knows? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Joe Frank Mailing List > joe-frank-list@armory.com > http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list > _______________________________________________ Joe Frank Mailing List joe-frank-list@armory.com http://www.armory.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/joe-frank-list ***************************************************************************** If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender immediately. The contents of this e-mail do not amend any existing disclosures or agreements unless expressly stated. ***************************************************************************** From contact at joefrank.com Fri Mar 26 12:44:23 2004 From: contact at joefrank.com (contact@joefrank.com) Date: Fri Mar 26 12:44:33 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Correction - Joe's performance in Chicago. Message-ID: <1080333863.4064962783d90@augustus.dnsback.com> We were mistaken - Joe's performance will *not* be part of Third Coast's Audio Cabaret. Joe will be performing at The Art Institute of Chicago, Fullerton Hall. This performance is in association with the 2004 Third Coast Audio Festival and we believe tickets will be available to the general public, though that is still unconfirmed. We'll provide new information as soon as we receive it. Best, The Joe Frank Web Team ---------------------- From contact at joefrank.com Fri Mar 26 16:05:33 2004 From: contact at joefrank.com (contact@joefrank.com) Date: Fri Mar 26 16:05:36 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Chicago performance info Message-ID: <1080345933.4064c54d3d129@augustus.dnsback.com> Some news: Joe's performance is scheduled for: October 29th at 7:30 pm Fullerton Hall The Art Institute of Chicago From BILLMILOSZ at aol.com Sat Mar 27 23:33:06 2004 From: BILLMILOSZ at aol.com (BILLMILOSZ@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 27 20:33:14 2004 Subject: [joe-frank-list] Joe Frank Newsletter #4 Message-ID: <103.41c9daf3.2d97af82@aol.com> In a message dated 3/23/2004 6:45:56 PM Central Standard Time, contact@joefrank.com writes: > http://joefrank.com/onair.html > Doesn't work as of 3/27/04 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.armory.com/pipermail/joe-frank-list/attachments/20040327/07cdc17a/attachment.htm